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 Posted 02/17/2010  07:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fistfulladirt to your friends list
Nice bust half, RB. I have bought a couple recently, here is my opion: who care's if it's cleaned? Now if I was spending $100's or thousands on a high-end coin I might be concerned. If it has good eye appeal and is low-end who cares? I see lots of cleaned coins on epay and some go for big bucks. I'm sure not all these buyers are novices, I just don't understand the concern about "cleaned", it sure doesn't seem to affect the resale from what I have seen.
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 Posted 02/17/2010  10:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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I just don't understand the concern about "cleaned", it sure doesn't seem to affect the resale from what I have seen.


All seem to agree that the $83 price was pretty realistic for this coin, assuming a cleaning, and that a grade of EF is appropriate. The most recent slabbed, original-surfaces EF example on Heritage sold for $184. I'd call that a bit of a difference.

Me, I think the weak rims would drag this one down to VF35, but I think that closer examination might lead the owner to believe the surfaces are original.
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 Posted 02/17/2010  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jamez to your friends list
Lower end EF. 40 I would say based on what I can see in the pictures. I will await clearer pictures to pipe in on the overton number.
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 Posted 02/17/2010  1:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list

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I just don't understand the concern about "cleaned"

Simply put, a cleaned coin is a damaged coin so the value is affected accordingly. Obviously not all cleanings are equal, some much harsher than others, but once an original coin is cleaned there is no going back- it will always be worth less than an original uncleaned example. However, do not confuse cleaning with conservation which is acceptable by the majority of collectors. Conservation merely removes surface contaminants that may damage the coin and/or affect eye appeal but the coinage metal itself is not altered either mechanically or chemically.

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I see lots of cleaned coins on epay and some go for big bucks

Never underestimate the number of bidiots and numismatic novices on Ebay
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 Posted 02/17/2010  4:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fistfulladirt to your friends list
Thanks for the insight guys, for I am a novice myself. ffd
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 Posted 02/17/2010  5:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SPQR to your friends list
Yeah, I've never understood the appeal of a coin with dirt, grease, and accumulated grime that obscures details. I prefer that my coins be free of grease and dirt, including skin oils that accelerate corrosion.
Dishwashing soap and hot water, with maybe a very soft nylon brush to remove dirt and grease, followed by a rinse of distilled water and into a flip or airtight is my usual regimen. For really nasty coins, acetone is the treatment preferred.
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 Posted 02/17/2010  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rustyboy to your friends list
The idea of a brush makes me... bristle?

I personally was thinking EF and not cleaned. I have a guess on the Overton already, but it is tough with the smaller photos. R-1, unfortunately. I keep checking the post... Still waiting on her.
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 Posted 02/17/2010  6:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list
EF in Red Book says its worth $140
but I think its in VF which is listed at $90
So either way you made a good deal
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 Posted 02/19/2010  12:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rustyboy to your friends list
Bust-Half-Ebay-Gamble...

Bust-Half-Ebay-Gamble...

Well, the first photo shows it. Hairlines all over the obverse. In hand it was actually harder to tell. This photo says all. I guess she is on her way back...
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 Posted 02/19/2010  12:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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Nice Original specimen.



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No Major Marks or defects.


On the off chance there's a hassle, keep those two phrases from the auction in mind. They are the words which will prove your case to ebay, should it come to it.
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 Posted 02/19/2010  1:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
Eh, just for giggles, post that obv pic and a rev pic in the variety section so someone can figure out the Overton number. You may have lucked out and gotten a good one- it would be worth checking first before sending back since your pic is of adequate size. I do not know much about Overton attribution but there are others here that can help
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 Posted 02/19/2010  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
Wow! The seller's photos in the flip hid a lot!

That coin is beyond words that can be printed in this forum.
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 Posted 02/19/2010  2:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add southerngent to your friends list
Shame for the rim nicks and what looks to me like a wizzed coin. If it atributes well then alls well that ends well.
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 Posted 02/19/2010  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rustyboy to your friends list
Here is the reverse, for anyone wanting to Overton this girl...

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 Posted 02/19/2010  9:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list
Wow thats terrible man...I'll tell you though, I return probably 1/3 to 1/2 of my purchases over $250, so I'm pretty used to it by now. A lot of sellers are ignorant/deceptive...
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