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The Usvi Ingot Co. - Makers Of Siver Buillon Rounds And Bars

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 Posted 06/16/2006  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USVI Ingot to your friends list
These are three versions of the reverse die used on the original round ingots. The die at top was carved by Howard Eichen, and did not long survive the pressures of the stamping press. The two dies at the bottom were used for production. Bottom right die was used first, bottom left die came next.

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The original round ingot packaging. I remember that some customers (stores) prefered to remove the packaging.

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 Posted 06/16/2006  1:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USVI Ingot to your friends list
Loaf Bars
(check here later for more story)

Amark, second obverse design. 'loaf' bar ingot
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Early loaf bar, reverse dies. The ingot on left shows the first style of reverse die. This might have been the only batch to bear the name of Anaheim Metal Co. The top most graphic changed to say 1 OZ. Troy with the next assay number. Both of these ingots say AMARK inside of an oval on the obverse. The ingot on the right shows some of the difficulty we sometimes had in obtaining a complete corner fill during the strike.
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An example of an extrustion press:
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A basic description of the extrustion process:
http://www.energymanagertraining.co...Products.htm


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All I can say is WOW!!!

Awesome story and awesome Silver!!!!!

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 Posted 06/16/2006  5:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Becky to your friends list
Very interesting, thanks for sharing!!
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Experimental ingots. Very few of these were produced, and they were not popular. The idea was to see what sort of edge formed using wide, shallowly engraved dies.

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Square Cornered Bars

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10 ounce ingots

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Enclosed edge die stampings made in the hydraulic press.


Large, flat USVI Ingot round with edge, obverse
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reverse
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Monex Silver Eagle
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Monex Trade Eagle, obverse
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reverse
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This large flat bar was produced after my departure. (Photo courtesy falconridr)

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All I can say is WOW!!!
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I would like to speak with you more about this topic if possible please email me. Thanks
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That is one of the best looking collections of silver I have ever seen!!! Thank you for sharing your knowledge of this with us
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quote:
Originally posted by USVI Ingot

10 ounce ingots

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I'm new to this forum and honestly only joined it to get an answer to a question.
I recently purchased a USVI Ingot of 10 oz. troy for the purpose of melting down and alloying to make into jewelry. My question though is concerning the number stamped into the ingot. It's 787, just the one one pictured in this thread. I'm curious as to why both ingots would have the same number. The stamping is in a little different location on mine than on the one pictured above(?).

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Only grasping and throwing out ideas but, it could have come from the same assay lot. They may have melted it down from a much larger ingot and put them into these 10oz. bars and stamped them with the same number if lets say 5 of them came from the same larger ingot. Just an idea, I do not know for sure.

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quote:
Originally posted by Irishraider

Only grasping and throwing out ideas but, it could have come from the same assay lot. They may have melted it down from a much larger ingot and put them into these 10oz. bars and stamped them with the same number if lets say 5 of them came from the same larger ingot. Just an idea, I do not know for sure.


Yes, exactly. The silver arrived at our factory in large ingots that weighed approx. 1000 oz. Many were stamped Engelhard or Johnson-Matthey. They were melted in batches and poured into billet molds. The billets were then extruded, and the long bars were cut to length/weight, polished, and stamped in a punch press. The lot numbers were stamped by hand as I recall, hence slightly different locations on the bar. There would be approximately 100ea. 10-oz ingots in each assay batch. The weights of the large ingots varied by a couple of hundred ounces, so it's a rough estimate re. the number of ingots per batch.
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