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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Well....if they end up "losing" sales because their products are too high.....then they REALLY won't meet their "profit margin" ! ....  Especially if the post purchase future premium value trend doesn't hold up to what we have to pay for them ! It already doesn't on many Sets....if they want to secure that for all of the Sets and other products.....by all means......they should keep doing what they are doing ! ... They should cut production, thereby cutting their costs, lower their prices, and stop coming up with so many "new" things, and end "bad idea" coins, get rid of the F.R.N.'s and the Cent.... And then maybe we'd have some products that would actually retain some value and even grow in value ! |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4000 Posts |
Man, I thought last years mint sets were a little salty. Anybody heard of a release date? (Sorry if it was in that article, but I don't recall seeing it mentioned).
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Pillar of the Community
555 Posts |
Release date: June/July. The Mint set had the biggest % increase.
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Valued Member
United States
469 Posts |
It sucks that they continue to raise the costs while providing less value for the cost. It has become all about the profit for the fed and not about the collectors. As much as I would like to boycott the mint, I want the sets for myself and my grandson.
An awful lot of people can't afford to purchase their offerings the way that they would like to. It's a shame that they don't mark things for a fair profit while allowing the everyday collector to see a value like they used to way back when. No one likes to be gouged!
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Valued Member
United States
312 Posts |
But if the Mint's production costs have increased, wouldn't it stand to reason they have to increase their prices to remain in the black? I can remember Proof Sets issued at $4.00 a set.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
14454 Posts |
I think its crazy the mint sets will now cost the same as the clad proof sets
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6326 Posts |
My dad can remember when ciggerettes where a Nickel a pack.....
Gas was 10 Cents a gallon......
It's the nature of the beast I guess !
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Valued Member
United States
84 Posts |
That's crazy, they were already too expensive, this is just ridiculous.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4541 Posts |
man I think my proof collecting days are over. This is not for me
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Valued Member
United States
312 Posts |
However; if future proof sets from the mint appreciate like the 2008 amd 2009 proofs, it's still a good investment. Case in point, the 2008 Presidential proofs coins are now booked at $10.00 per.
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Rest in Peace
United States
2668 Posts |
But, but according to the governmental Social Security Administration there is no inflation this year. How do they justify a price increase?  |
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Valued Member
United States
312 Posts |
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But, but according to the governmental Social Security Administration there is no inflation this year.
How do they justify a price increase? When did the SSA have influence over what the cost for materials, used by the US Mint for coin production, is? |
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Valued Member
United States
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It is weird to think that last year the face value of the mint set was
8 - 1 Cent coins
2 - 5 Cent coins
2 - 10 Cent coins
12 - 25 Cent coins
2 - 50 Cent coins
10 - 1 Dollar coins
For a total face value of $14.38 and a sales price of $27.95 or 197% of the face value.
This Year
2 - 1 Cent coins
2 - 5 Cent coins
2 - 10 Cent coins
10 - 25 Cent coins
2 - 50 Cent coins
10 - 1 Dollar coins
For a total face value of $13.82 and a sales price of $31.95 or 277% of the face value.
So we get an 80% price increase on an annual set. That's just great They haven't even sold out of the 2009 sets yet. I'm thinking that in 2011 they will probably still have some 2009 sets available on their site. My big question now concerns their own memo: Quote:
Gross cost made up a greater portion of numismatic sales revenue, reducing the net margin to 9.3% in FY 209 from 14.8% in FY 2008... The reduced margin means that the United States Mint offered numismatic products to customers at lower sales prices than sufficient to achieve the standard 15% margin If they want a profit margin of 15% then why are they over charging SO MUCH!? If they want to increase profitability then they should do a few things:
-Get rid of the "Satin" minting process.
(no one likes it, it is expensive, and only used for annual sets)
-Get rid of the 50 cent piece.
(most cash register jockeys today don't even know it exists anyway)
-Lower the amount of annual sets they produce.
(increase demand by limiting supply)
-Stop with the theme sets.
(there has to be an extreme cost associated with these)
-Quarter the production numbers for 1-5 years.
(There are more than enough coins in circulation to cover this action. Furthermore This will do a few good
things.
1. It will lower production costs.
2. It will increase the value of the dollar by reducing the amount of currency in circulation.
3. It will lower the cost of the base metals for the coins, allowing for more savings when full
production is resumed.
-Limit Commemorative coinage to one design per year and half the mintage numbers.
Edited by coretj
03/14/2010 9:42 pm
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Valued Member
United States
436 Posts |
OH! and you can't tell me they didn't make a ton of money from the 2009 1 cent 2 roll sets from last year..
A face value of $1.00 selling for $8.95.. for those that can't do the math in your head that is a profit margin over face of 795%
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Moderator
 United States
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I think its crazy the mint sets will now cost the same as the clad proof sets I agree, it just looks weird to see it. However, you do get twice as many coins.  Quote:
-Get rid of the "Satin" minting process. (no one likes it, it is expensive, and only used for annual sets) I agree.  |
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