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I believe it's been cleaned in the past too...which I mentioned. I like it though, and it's a tough coin to buy in this shape for that kind of money. I'd rather tolerate the old cleaning and reverse damage than have one in G-4 with no problems.
Chance
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Further research would seem to suggest that this is variety B-1, with an R-4 rarity rating.
Chance
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Good deal on this coin. I would snatch it up if I were you.
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Rest in Peace
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Forgive me if I am wrong but the lettering/details just look weird to me on this one, I would check to make sure its not fake or something.
Oh I just read the OP...I would say theres a good chance = (
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03/14/2010 8:28 pm
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I did buy it....and am comfortable that it's genuine.
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Have you compared vs photos on heritage? I don't want to be a killjoy, but it does look suspicious to me. Maybe its just the way the cleaning affected the coin.
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I've spent much time on heritage looking at these. I am confident that it's real. Take a look at this one....also a B-1. I was downtown helping a buddy of mine with his computer, and after seeing my own material on his monitor....I am reminded of how much different "what you see"...can be from "what I see". Monitor setting are very important. It appears a bit "soft" in the details...but that could be due to poor photography, since I had to enlarge these...or it could be from the cleaning. I'll snap some pictures on friday when she arrives. http://coins.ha.com/common/view_ite...=7676&src=prChance Edited by Chancellor Sutler
03/16/2010 2:02 pm
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Still looks pretty different to me, but yeah that could be the photograph/the cleaning. The way the date matches up is good, I guess I just meant that a lot of the lettering/details look more...'artificial' if that makes any sense.
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I think it's probably from having been "thumbed" that the devices have a slightly polished look to them. Check out the missing serif on the lower bottom of the letter "T" in Liberty. All 5 varieties exhibit that anomally. It'll get a rigorous going over when it gets here.
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It looks genuine to me but does have a polished appearance. I'd say VF details.
$395 is cheap for this coin even with the problems noted.
I love the heraldic eagle reverses.
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This coin arrived this morning and I am satisfied that it is real, it's been thumbed which gives it a polished appearance. It weighs just over 6.5 grams, and is 27.3mm in diameter, which is within tolerance for a circulated example worn to this extent. In 1805 there were 5.3 million people in the US, so if a person was only allowed one of these, just one person in 40 would have one. The US flag wasn't very cluttered back then...having just 15 stars. Chance    Edited by Chancellor Sutler
03/18/2010 09:59 am
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Nice coin, I agree with VF grade, does look like someone tried to spiff it up a bit, but still an overall good buy.  |
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One consideration with coins of this age is that it's incumbent upon us, as collectors, to preserve the few which are left. Altered surfaces are a much lesser factor in a buying decision.
This is history in your hand. A person attending the very first Open House at the White House, hosted by Thomas Jefferson, could have carried this coin. It is certain that, at some point in the past, someone made a conscious decision to preserve it, preventing further circulation wear. Now, here it is, and we can do no less.
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You mean I shouldn't get out the comet and finish cleaning that ugly black off of it?  These coins were big...but thin and 89 percent silver rather than the 90 percent that we're accustomed to. I'd never held one in my hand before this morning, and relative size and thickness are things you just can't tell from pictures of just the 1805. I rinsed the coin with acetone in order to strip any silicone or other protective or tarnish inhibiting substance that might be present...so that the coin can begin toning down in order to regain a little dignity. The damage to the reverse doesn't bug me as much as the polishing does. Chance  Edited by Chancellor Sutler
03/18/2010 12:07 pm
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