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Rick if I happen to find a stash of them here you will be one of the first on my list to receive one. We are having my daughters birthsay party here today but I may drag some of them out tonight and sort through a few jars of them and see if I find some of them, he didnt sort anything out as far as wheats/memorial he just put cents together and quarters together and so forth so this may take quite awhile but if I do you were already on my mind to send one to so cross your fingers. One other question, were the 55 DDO in the cigarete packs the real deals or were they copies ? Edited by Bryan1315
06/25/2006 4:36 pm
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Hi Bryan
Reading your post made my heart skip a beat !!at this point everything I have control of is crossed !!!
I have read a few of the stories ,but never having seen packs with coins in them ,, and both of my parents are deceased so I could not ask them, The story just kind of dropped for me.
I would have to believe that the coins would be legitimate.
Rick
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I had never heard of it either until I just brought it up to my grandfather last night while talking to him on the phone and he remembered how he had aquired them, then to my suprise he said he should have a few of them in one of his boxes (either one of them he has already given me or one of them he still has) but maybe since I already found one of them in one of these boxes, they may all be here stashed in one of the jars in one of the boxes I have here
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06/25/2006 4:45 pm
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Originally posted by thingee
 What does BIE stand for?
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Originally posted by longnine009
I collect Lincoln BIEs.
BIE is a generic term for a Lincoln Cent that has a die break-(piece out of the die) in the word LIBERTY, mostly on coins struck in the 50's. When they started to get some attention they were mostly breaks between the B & E and so they were called BIEs. But that just became a catch all word for breaks between any of the letters. The one in the photo is a BEIR and JC58-1002 is a catalog number from Jean Cohen's book that she published in 1967. It has over 6,000 drawings in it. In 1965 a national club called the BIE Guild formed. It was entirely a correspondence club of a few hundred collectors. They collected their BIEs, made drawings of them and put together a reference book--The BIE Guild handbook. They also collected the many die cracks associated with BIEs and they apparently gave nicknames to everything: devil horns, spiked heads, bow-ties, bullet to the head--(a break in the field above LIBERTY that looks like a bullet behind Lincolns head), pencil to the ear, date dots such as 196.1, fish hooks, r-dates, goatees, devil tails, connectors--(die cracks between letters), antennas--(die cracks coming out of the tops of letters) etc. etc, etc, "The Letters BIE is to be understood as standing for the 'BEST IN ERRORS' and not the diebreak between the letters 'B' and 'E' as formerly supposed. John E. Markley Former BIE GUILD member. Edited by longnine009
06/25/2006 6:25 pm
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I guess I'm like you Rick,I still need the best ones,that would definitly make it complete.All in all,I've come along way with this set,and I am happy for what I've accomplished so far.One of these days,I may try working on another one for myself.Good luck everyone,Happy Lincoln Hunting!sn31.
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I dont see any bags of pennies from the mint....where can someone get a bag or sack ? From the bank?
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quote:
Originally posted by longnine009
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Originally posted by thingee
What does BIE stand for?
[?quote:
Originally posted by longnine009
I collect Lincoln BIEs.
BIE is a generic term for a Lincoln Cent that has a die break-(piece out of the die) in the word LIBERTY, mostly on coins struck in the 50's. When they started to get some attention they were mostly breaks between the B & E and so they were called BIEs. But that just became a catch all word for breaks between any of the letters. The one in the photo is a BEIR and JC58-1002 is a catalog number from Jean Cohen's book that she published in 1967. It has over 6,000 drawings in it.
In 1965 a national club called the BIE Guild formed. It was entirely a correspondence club of a few hundred collectors. They collected their BIEs, made drawings of them and put together a reference book--The BIE Guild handbook. They also collected the many die cracks associated with BIEs and they apparently gave nicknames to everything: devil horns, spiked heads, bow-ties, bullet to the head--(a break in the field above LIBERTY that looks like a bullet behind Lincolns head), pencil to the ear, date dots such as 196.1, fish hooks, r-dates, goatees, devil tails, connectors--(die cracks between letters), antennas--(die cracks coming out of the tops of letters) etc. etc, etc,
"The Letters BIE is to be understood as standing for
the 'BEST IN ERRORS' and not the diebreak between
the letters 'B' and 'E' as formerly supposed.
John E. Markley
Former BIE GUILD member.
Just found this in my 55's. I hope that you can see this scan. Is this a BIER cent? It is a little difficult to see by my scan but, there is definitely a solid copper line between the B and E.  |
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Debbie,the one I want you to check out for me is a 1941D,I found it today searching through my penny bag.sn31.
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Hi dsking
Cool another BIE fan ,, These occur on quite a few different dates and Mints , mostly 50's .
I have also found a couple that go this way B-E . I think I posted pics of it in the error forum once, anyway somewhere on the forum !!
Rick
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06/25/2006 8:17 pm
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I'll have to look for your B-E on the forum incase I run across one in my gazillion pennies. This 55 is in really good shape too..probably a solid upper AU. I was just spending a little time with my 55's and whala there it was. I found some other errors too - double L's and a filled 9. Now I'm going to take another look at the other tubes of 50's that I have.
sn31 - that's great, just send it along and I'll do my best at scanning it and putting it up on the forum for you. I'm obviously still working on my scanning of coins. Maybe I'll have it perfected in this lifetime!
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Originally posted by dsking
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Originally posted by longnine009
[quote]Originally posted by thingee
What does BIE stand for?
[?[quote]Originally posted by longnine009
I collect Lincoln BIEs.
Just found this in my 55's. I hope that you can see this scan. Is this a BIER cent? It is a little difficult to see by my scan but, there is definitely a solid copper line between the B and E.
Yes that's a L3/4 BIE or lower three quarters, starts at the bottom and extends up about 3/4 the way. They also have uppers and centers such as a C1/4--very hard to find. 1955D is a good mintmark. The 1955S is pretty common though. The B-E that Metalman spoke of was called a "connector." Also, it's not even necessary to have high grade Lincolns if your only interest is in the BIE. LIBERTY sits low to the field so AU and EF are good grades for it at good prices. Unc are useful for "cracked skulls" or die breaks running through Lincolns head. In that situation the die crack is the highest part on the coin so an Unc would be the best grade for that one. If you come across any 1954S with a die crack coming down from the 4 and looking like a J next to the S that's a San Jose. That would be a very good find. Edited by longnine009
06/26/2006 5:25 pm
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Thanks Steven! Very informative and useful information. I just happened to notice the BIER and was quite surprised at my new find. I'll keep an eye out for the 1954S with the "J" die crack although I don't think that I currently have one. Who knows? That's my birth year and I might oddly get lucky!!! Thanks again!
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Well, I have the 5 lbs of wheats from my childhood and I don't want to give them up, but I also don't search for pennies. Does that make me a Lincoln collector ?
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I would hang onto them.Who knows one day you may want to put a set together,and then you'll have what you need,or at least most of them.sn31.
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Posted 06/25/2006 4:37 pm
Thanks so much for that information longnine. That's really interesting!!
