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 Posted 04/05/2010  08:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list
does anyone have any ancient africa coins?
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 Posted 04/05/2010  09:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list

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does anyone have any ancient africa coins?

Yes.

Egypt is in Africa (though it was not thought of as part of Africa in ancient times). Egypt under the ancient Pharaohs issued very few coins (and these are very scarce and valuable) but Egyptian coinage issued after the conquest of Alexander the Great, and into Roman and Byzantine times, is relatively cheap and plentiful. I have numerous examples.

The ancient superpower of Carthage is also in Africa; it was situated in what is now Tunisia. I have a couple of Carthaginian bronzes.

There's one African city I don't have, but it's on my wantlist: Cyrene, in what is now Libya. This Greek colony was the source of the now-extinct silphium plant: a species of celery which not only tasted delicious but had powerful medicinal qualities, it was harvested to extinction in Roman times. The silphium plant features on many of the coins from this city.

All of the places mentioned so far are from the northern Mediterannean fringe of Africa. The only truly "native African" ancient coinage comes from the Axumite Empire, located in what is now Ethiopia. The coinage of most Axumite kings is quite scarce, but a couple of the kings are common. Hoards of Axumite coins often turn up in southern India, demonstrating that ancient seafarers maintained a thriving trade route across the Indian Ocean. I have a silver quinarius of King Ousanas, circa 320 AD.
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can you show a picture?
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 Posted 04/05/2010  7:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list
There's a very old thread I posted just after I purchased my Axumite coin, with pics, here.
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 Posted 04/05/2010  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Agosos to your friends list
Thanks again Sap.Thats a nice coin you got there,I'll have to add one to the wants list.
I'll post a few more pics later,I'm in a bit of a rush atm.
Cheers.
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 Posted 04/06/2010  07:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Agosos to your friends list
Heres another 2.

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Left coin would be another Constantine I with sol reverse(correct me if I'm wrong).From what you said,would this one date 307-309 and if so what is the p for between the s and f,or am I just reading it wrong?
So that being said,all I really need to know is the mint mark on that one,unless I've I.Dd it wrong.Whats a good site for referencing mint marks?
I'm loving the info you are sharing here Sap,it's a shame I only have 3 more to i.d,although I have a few more soaking but they will be bathing for awhile yet.cheers mate.
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The FORVM late Roman attribution page has plenty of info on identifying these types, including a listing of typical mintmark forms. The Sear catalogues have much the same information.

#11: It is a SOL INVICTO type, but his titles are as augustus: IMP CONSTANTINVS PF AVG. "IMP" stands for Imperator and was by long tradition a title only used by a senior emperor at the time. "PF" stands for "Pius Felix", titles also only claimed by senior emperor. Some coins of Constantine as augustus have IMP and/or PF in the titles, but not all do. I believe the mintmark is RT: Rome itself, third officina. Wildwinds example.

#12: An emperor with a name ending in "...TIVS PF AVG" - Constantius II is the most likely candidate. Reverse FEL TEMP REPARATIO, soldier spearing horseman. Mintmark (?)SLG - Lugdunum (Lyons, France) mint, 2nd officina, not sure if the control-letter before SLG is an F, a G or something else. Wildwinds.
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 Posted 04/08/2010  06:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Agosos to your friends list
Thanks mate,thats a handy bit of info.Sadly these are the last of them untill I've cleaned up the others,but looking at some of them,I rekon I'll be an expert by the time they are cleaned.


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I linked this on a few weeks ago,i think I've got it I.D'd,but I'd like to hear someone elses interpretation,


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Thanks a ton,you've been a great help,now my mates will be able to look at the coin and the info.I've got one mate who loves holding my ancient coins,I'm planning on getting him a few to clean up,hopefully give him the taste
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 Posted 04/08/2010  07:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nuggethill to your friends list
I like the Caracalla denarius,the obverse reads
ANTONINVS PIVS AVG GERM (213 to 217)
the reverse is a variation on
VENVS VICTRIX
It's Venus standing left leaning on a shield set on the back of a captive,holding helmet and scepter,a second captive at her feet.

If you have David Van Meter's book "The Handbook of Roman Imperial Coins"you will find it on page 194 as o1/13-9/3.
regards Harry
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 Posted 04/08/2010  08:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Agosos to your friends list
Cheers Harry,
It's my favorite ancient that I have in my collection.I'll have to check out Amazon for a copy of that book I think.
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 Posted 04/08/2010  08:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list
The first one in your last set is Valens (364-378) (99% certain)

The full legend will read: D N VALEN-S P F AVG
The reverse is: SECVRITAS REIPVBLICAE Mintmark ALE(Gamma)

It was minted in Alexandria but cant narrow the date down atm.


The second coin is Constans (337-350)

CONSTANS AVG
GLORIA EXERCITVS - Unfortunately cant read enough of the minkmark to 100% ID.

I would guess it to be .CONSIA. meaning it was minted in Constantinople between 333 and 335.


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04/08/2010 08:56 am
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 Posted 04/08/2010  10:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nuggethill to your friends list
Anytime mate It's not a problem,I like the coins from his brother Geta,but then again Trajan,Vespasian,Nerva (Love the nose)and the list goes on,I have some nice Trajan Sestertius,Dupondis and As (the As is extra fine and very nice) also some very rare coins not listed in any article written to date (all brought from Roman Ancient coins)as well as a coin from a roman mobil mint it's a cast coin of Germanicus and I believe it's very Rare.
All in All about a 1000 coins +,in reality I stopped counting about a 1000 coins .
Regards Harry
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 Posted 04/08/2010  2:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Agosos to your friends list
Nice Harry,do you ever buy uncleaned ones and tidy them up?
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 Posted 04/08/2010  7:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nuggethill to your friends list
Yes mate hundreds these were from Augustus to Constans,stuffed a few up to start with some nice one's at that,then took my time and taught my self how to leave the patina on them this took years.
If you go back through the threads in this section you will see some of them,I've stopped collecting them now as I have other collecting interests and can't spare the time to clean though I still look at the collection from time to time,one day I'll get a round to it and start up collecting again but that will be some time down the track.
thanks for your interest Agosos .
regards Harry.
Oh just as a matter of interest be careful as there are a lot of fakes out there and this is one.

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04/08/2010 7:21 pm
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 Posted 04/11/2010  10:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Agosos to your friends list
cleaning ancients is very relaxing IMO.
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