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1882 Alfonso XII 4 Peso Gold-Forgotten Rare Coin?

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Philippines
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 Posted 05/12/2010  05:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add horge to your friends list
Oh, one last thing.

Sell your specimen ONLY if you desperately need the revenue.
You can always find a way to make some cash, but it is very
difficult to obtain a genuine, high-grade 1882 4P Manila.
To avoid certain legal issues (restrictions in Presidential
Decree No,374,1974 "The Cultural Property Preservation and
Protection Act") you can really only sell it to a fellow
Filipino residing within the Philippines.

hth,
horge
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Philippines
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 Posted 05/12/2010  7:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pandesalapi to your friends list

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You can always find a way to make some cash, but it is very
difficult to obtain a genuine, high-grade 1882 4P Manila.
To avoid certain legal issues (restrictions in Presidential
Decree No,374,1974 "The Cultural Property Preservation and
Protection Act") you can really only sell it to a fellow
Filipino residing within the Philippines.

I hope we meet on auctions here because I really have so much questions to ask and interested to learn.
Frankly speaking I almost tried to post this coin at ebay recently because I felt the cost of it when I acquired this more than a decade ago barely appreciated compared to some silver rarities. My plan then was take the proceeds and expand more on my early dated type F.7.o and Y.II counterstamped collection.
By the threads you just posted here made me decide to forget disposing this alfonsino...
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 Posted 05/12/2010  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nic to your friends list
Hello Pandesalapi and to horge

Talking about auctions...there's a coming auction by Bayanihan Club this May 30th at the usual site and based on the listing, there's some 5 pieces UNCs and EFs of the gold alfonso 4P's being auctioned off. Are you going? if so.. see you there!
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 Posted 05/13/2010  01:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pandesalapi to your friends list

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there's some 5 pieces UNCs and EFs of the gold alfonso 4P's being auctioned off

Hello Nic, yes see you on the 30th
One thing though, are they Alfonso 4P's or the common Isabel 4P's the Bayanihan club usually auctions?
If they are alfonso 4 pesos, first time Bayanihan will auction, then I might as well be ready of resources before the 30th, excited to again get at least get 1 out of 5pcs
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 Posted 05/13/2010  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nic to your friends list

Turns out most are gold 1P & 4P Isabelas, there are three 1P Alfonsos at $300 ave Tipo, but see item 174 in listing, Tipo starts at a surprise $2,100


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174.Spa/ Phil. Gold 4P Alfonso XII 1882 with almost imperceptible dent at bottom left of rim at reverse but AU Rare. PHOTO..US$ 2,100


auction brochures available at World Treasures MegamallB

Nice coin youve got there
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 Posted 05/14/2010  12:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pandesalapi to your friends list

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..lTipo starts at a surprise $2,100


Well that is definitely an alfonsino 4P if it is starting at that cost you mentioned. I hope the dent at the bottom left of the rim is not that bad. A clear plus / ultra on pillars and King Alfonso's moustache are important factors in these Alfonsinos, I wish they have sharp details

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auction brochures available at World Treasures MegamallB

Thank you Nic for the great info and the nice comment. See you soon in the auction
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 Posted 05/16/2010  07:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nic to your friends list
copy, good luck!
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 Posted 06/04/2010  6:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list
Here's my Alfonso. No comparison to yours, still I like old coins.

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 Posted 06/05/2010  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pandesalapi to your friends list
Svslav - We share the same interest on old alfonsos. Your alfonso is a nice one
Nic - I was very happy with the recent Auction you have informed me, though nobody bidded on the Alfonso (maybe because of the absence of its mint luster), But I won the Bronze MS-62 RB Wilson Dollar at a very, very low cost I didn't expected - Way, way below the normal price at Heritage Auction Archives. With your thread and advise, I was able to get a copy of brochure at Megamall thus made an early study before the auction. Again lots of Thanks Nic
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 Posted 06/07/2010  02:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fireandice556 to your friends list
Just saying Hi. An amateur PH enthusiast and with this forum. (H) is an old acquaintance with some other forums. :)

I still have do not have AUs in my collection, maybe in the future. Hope to learn much from this forum.
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 Posted 06/07/2010  07:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pandesalapi to your friends list

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Just saying Hi. An amateur PH enthusiast and with this forum. (H) is an old acquaintance with some other forums. :)

to the forum Fireandice. You are a kababayan
You have mentioned (H), Is this the same Horge who just mentioned about PD no.374 on the above threads?
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 Posted 06/07/2010  08:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fireandice556 to your friends list
Yes, Horge also uses the same handle in some other forums. I was supposed to use my more common handle, but my yahoo.com account is fumbling, so I had to use my alternate gmail account.

Thanks for the warm welcome.
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 Posted 07/28/2010  12:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pandesalapi to your friends list
Again I am happy to share my recently acquired alfonso. A known Pinoy Seller just texted me last week informing the availability of another Alfonso 4 peso in his store. Thanks to Horge, with his postings here, I am again inspired to get another one. I would be happier to get your grading opinions on the coin below, thanks
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 Posted 08/01/2010  02:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bagets to your friends list
Pandesalapi-Your collection seems to focus on these gold coins.
Your above 2 coins of Alfonso XII 4 pesos would really cost you a lot.
I have seen also your 1906s and 1906 proof one peso coins in your previous
threads, they are really beautiful coins. I can not recall finding your coins
in the market or present auctions here, so I wonder how do you get these ones?
I am beggining to enjoy having in this community. Thank you for the post
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 Posted 08/01/2010  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pandesalapi to your friends list

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so I wonder how do you get these ones?

Bagets - Mostly I am able to get these ones outside auctions here, Sellers were also collectors of these gold ones offered me, luckily at a bargain price. There is one alfonsino being auctioned right now abroad at heritage auctions that will end this august 12,2010 - if my memory serves me well.
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