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Pillar of the Community
United States
1007 Posts |
Ouch. And someone bid on it too.
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Valued Member
United States
103 Posts |
That 1796 wasn't the only one.... Yesterday there there was a 1798 in "fine condition Someone is going to have to pony up $160 for that beauty... Found two more, those Chinese fakers are getting smart and running 24 hour auctions to avoid detection. The ebay reporting system is unintuitive and lame.... Poor suckers that lay out good money for such crap...
Edited by zazenboy 07/18/2010 10:26 am
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Rest in Peace
United States
1729 Posts |
This one was removed. Thank goodness for the watchdogs here.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1208 Posts |
ebay used to let you see who was bidding. I blame them for alot of the problem when they started blocking bidder names from public view. You could contact all the bidders and let them know the coin was suspect. They appreciated greatly. I would appreciate as well. I never had a bad experience contacting a bidder for any reason, or being contacted myself. There was ONE time, and the bidder turned out to be the seller using a shill account. I wish they would bring back public bidding...
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Pillar of the Community
3660 Posts |
Quote: You could contact all the bidders and let them know the coin was suspect. They appreciated greatly. I would appreciate as well. While that concept does hold merit, it is also a double edged sword. Too many ignorant watchdogs could notify bidders on a genuine article that the item is a fake. Seller subsequently loses bids and eventual selling price is lowered. ebay loses income from lowered sales, receives pressure from sellers to end the free communication between watchdogs and bidders. Then arises the problem of unscrupulous or ignorant sellers actually selling fakes and watchdogs are helpless to intervene. I believe that ebay has now compromised between sellers and potential buying victims (as best they see fit) by guaranteeing the buyers satisfaction (if the purchase is made through their offspring company of Paypal). If the buyer receives the item, screams 'fake', ebay will be obligated to refund. Sort of takes the risk out of buying from scam artists.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2541 Posts |
Thanks for your activism guys! This stuff really ticks me off. I seriously think we need to start forging Chinese coins and selling them over there. I think they already do enough of that to themselves though!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3076 Posts |
 now isn't that an intereseting concept! 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4416 Posts |
As an eBayer for some years now, I preferred the days when buyers could openly communicate in that venue. Twice, I was able to warn buyers of potential counterfeit Bust Dollars by having them pose a simple question to the seller. Both auctions ended without his reply to them; or even a reply to me, four days prior to closing. The simple and telling question was, "What's the edge of the coin look like?" I figured that those "dollars" likely had reeded edges, lacking the lettering of originals. Both "dollars" closed at over $1,000, each. The potential buyers were quite appreciative, and I felt the glow of having done a good deed. Sadly, the system is all too secretive nowadays ...
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21786 Posts |
If ebay keeps going with their current policies, the honest ones amongst us can become too cynical and discouraged to bother with ebay auctions. The incidence of shonks auctioning their fakes is too prevalent for me, that is why I only bid for low value items on ebay.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
511 Posts |
ebay - greedy, arrogant, clueless, friend of scammers.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
3692 Posts |
Just so we're clear, what did the seller do. The listing has already been taken down.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
17884 Posts |
Quote: Just so we're clear, what did the seller do. The listing has already been taken down. Yes greedy lazy do nothing ebay pulled the auction within seven hours of it being discovered and reported.
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Locked
822 Posts |
Yeah, gotta love people that will spend hours griping, but won't take 2 minutes to report an item. If you give ebay a valid report they always remove them quickly. To say they don't care is downright silly and irresponsible.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3283 Posts |
Yeah, they have millions of items for sale, it's impossible to monitor all of them. Its up to us to do what we can to protect others and especially protect ourselves! I would hate it if there was no ebay. Not to say improvements couldn't be made though.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
17884 Posts |
Quote: Yeah, they have millions of items for sale, it's impossible to monitor all of them. Its up to us to do what we can to protect others and especially protect ourselves! They also don't have a staff experienced in numismatics (or other collectible fields) that would give them the expertise to spot a lot of the problem auctions. They actually HAVE to depend on groups like us to spot the scams and report them.
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