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Help With A 1914-D Auction

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 Posted 08/10/2010  01:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add delaner to your friends list
Well, this answers my question - nobody came back with "that's actually obverse die #3" or some such thing. Yep, tough to tell from the pics, yep, I'll be staying away from that one.

Verm - I keep checking back on your site but you don't have anything on my list! And now you've gone and sold the Hibernia! Drat... : ) And congrats!
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 Posted 08/10/2010  11:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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Friends don't let friends buy raw key date coins on ebay...


Should be enough said.
I suspect that the 14D is one of the top faked, counterfeited, made up coins on Earth.
Still remember when I was a kid we erased part of a 4 in a 1944D to make 14D's.
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 Posted 08/10/2010  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Namachieli to your friends list

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I suspect that the 14D is one of the top faked, counterfeited, made up coins on Earth.


I dunno about all that, but in the top 10 for sure.
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 Posted 08/11/2010  12:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westnlas to your friends list
I certainly would not say the coin is altered or that you should not bid on it. I will say that I would not. I simply did not like the way the mint mark sat on the coin. Although it is likely genuine, I would want a grader's opinion and slab for this one.
Just my own opinion.
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 Posted 08/11/2010  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add upstate to your friends list
A coin like that should at least have the zoom feature at the very least.
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 Posted 08/11/2010  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wolf-n-wa to your friends list
$145 and 17 bids so far. How many of you are actually bidding on this? WOLF
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 Posted 08/18/2010  02:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westnlas to your friends list
I never purchase anything but lots that I expect to be junk without having the coin in my own hand first. I want to tilt it to the light under my loupe and study it closely. Even if slabbed, I want to look at the seal and the coin. But that's me.
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 Posted 08/18/2010  08:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Don't buy a raw, key date coin over the internet. Go see the coin in person. (I'm tried of telling people that.)
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 Posted 08/18/2010  9:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add delaner to your friends list
lol - yeah Thad, I know what you mean. I'm getting tired of asking people to read my whole post! =)
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 Posted 08/19/2010  02:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seal006 to your friends list
If you look at the seller's feedback he has had many satisfied customers on several key date coins. This was not the first 14-D this seller has sold.
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 Posted 08/19/2010  09:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list

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If you look at the seller's feedback he has had many satisfied customers on several key date coins. This was not the first 14-D this seller has sold.


So? Why not buy an expensive coin that you can inspect in hand before buying? People get in too big of a hurry to buy key dates. Go to shows and look for a few months until the right coin comes along. You'll know it when you see it.

Also, lots of people give positive feedback when they buy cleaned, damaged, counterfeit and AT coins on ebay because they don't know any better. That nancye guy on ebay sells nothing but artificially colored wheats, yet he has glowing 100% feedback with hundreds of ignorant fools saying how great his coins are.
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 Posted 08/19/2010  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
Don't know how many times I've said this but my Son sells stuff on ebay all the time. Fanstastic feedbacks since he has all his friends send them in. When he was in college all the kids did that together. If you trust ebay feedback, you just never think people would do such things.
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 Posted 08/19/2010  6:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seal006 to your friends list
I am not saying that I trust all of the feedback I read on ebay. My point is that just because it is on ebay does not mean it is inferior product. There are reputable dealers that do business on ebay. Yes, the internet does have scammers, but it does have honest people as well. It is an opportunity to see millions of things all at once, and the best part is that you pay only what you are willing to pay. Is that such a bad deal? I have had some sour deals on ebay, but the good transaction far outweigh the bad.

The very things that people a leary about on ebay can happen right in their own local dealer's shop. ebay and Paypal have return policies that are slanted so far in the buyer's favor it is not even funny. And because there are so many items to choose from, prices tend to hang lower than in a coin shop or show. Do not get me wrong, I would prefer to by coins that I can see with my own eyes and hands first, but the convienence factor of places like ebay make it so much easier.

Does all of this bias also apply to the auctions we have on this forum? Who is to say a poster with 3000 post would not try and pull a fast one selling inferior coins to the unsuspecting? Who is to say that buyer whom you have had several conversations with in thread after thread would not try the old "bait and switch"?

We live in a technology rich world. The days of face to face meetings and deals made with a handshake are fading...FAST. Rental space in tradition "brick and mortar" stores are driving many folks out of business. The internet provides an arena to conduct business with minimal overhead. Welcome to the 21st century.
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 Posted 08/20/2010  10:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CEOcoinshop to your friends list
Integrity is still the "word of the day"
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 Posted 08/21/2010  4:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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Does all of this bias also apply to the auctions we have on this forum? Who is to say a poster with 3000 post would not try and pull a fast one selling inferior coins to the unsuspecting? Who is to say that buyer whom you have had several conversations with in thread after thread would not try the old "bait and switch"?


There is a real, really, realllllly big difference in the members on this forum and the possible nuts, crooks, etc on something like ebay. Anyone on Earth, China for example, is on ebay. Many, many individuals that sell or want to sell JUNK are on ebay. Yes there are many nice, honest, sincer people on ebay BUT, and a big BUT, how do you know who is who.
At least on this forum the member are coin people. Some are dealers. Some are kids. Some are just old fashioned coin collectors. HOWEVER, they are all coin coin people and are not really here to cheap someone. Yes there could be but the chances that a member of this forum being anything but a coin club member in good or better standing is slim.
Have you ever heard of a member cheating anyone out of anything here?
Have you ever heard of someone being cheated on ebay?
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