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Today is my first day trying to guess grades. So this is not worth much... I think it is a little less that F-12 but I'm not sure what it is called. F-10?
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08/29/2010 3:43 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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It is an obverse #2 and I think Fine-12 is close. Here's a obverse #1 look at the N in Regina  |
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I cant really see a difference   Edited by Canadian-Banknotes
08/29/2010 4:44 pm
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Canada
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Cdn-Banknote. If you look at any 1876 large cent, look at the tip of the crown where it almost touches the bead. Then look at the 1876 neck truncation where it comes to a point right at the bead directly above the C in Canada. Then look at the N in papeldog's photo. Compare any 1876 coin, which is Obv 1, to your coin and there is a world of difference. Papeldog's photo, while dark, shows what an Obv 1 1884 should look like with the N in regina.(bottom left foot longer on the right).
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Oh! Wow. I see it now.
Thanks!
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New Member
United Kingdom
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Hi guys. Just wanted to say thanks. I was looking up 1884 cent varieties and came across this forum. I through it I found out that my 1884 is the Obv 1 as the "N in regina.(bottom left foot longer on the right)."  Which mine is but its not so evident in the picture. I'm going to send it to PCGS for grading and conformation. Thanks, Hus |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Here's one I found in a US dealer's album for $4.  |
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United Kingdom
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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$4 ?
You have the greatest eye for finding deals.. congrats! (How many horseshoes do you carry with you?!)
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Thanks!  Sometimes a photographic memory comes in handy. I try to memorize varieties before coin shows. |
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Canada
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Prestige .... Yes, yours is an Obverse 1. The easiest way to tell at the beginning is look at the tip of the crown. If it impinges at all on the bead, then it's an Obv 2. If the bead remains perfectly round, then it's an Obv 1. Likewise the pointed tip of the neck truncation will always end right above the bead directly above the C in Canada. An Obv 2 will be further to the left, between the beads. A great coin and a great find. congrats.
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Valued Member
United States
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Prestige, before you send to PCGS, make sure that they recognize the different obv portraits. Otherwise you will just get a grade not the variety designation you seek.
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New Member
United Kingdom
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Thanks Dan. I emailed them and they said they currently DO NOT recognise the variety.
However I would still like it professionally graded for a numerical grade. Current guesses on another forum range from AU50 to MS62 RB. Most being closer to the MS60ish mark. The highest graded is apparently one MS63BN.
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Send it to CCCS Nice hard holders.Accurate grading.Correct variety attribution.Coins in CCCS holders don't do well in the international market,but among Canadian collectors there will be no doubt as to grade and attribution. |
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Thanks DBM. I am based in the UK. I've sent it out with another couple of Canadian coins  (The 1907 25c is really nice. The pictures dont do them justice.) to my friend in the US for grading. I asked him about ICCS and CCCS but he said it was a bit of a pain to send coins to Canada for grading. Apparently after PCGS garde it cross grade it, keeping the coin in the PCGS holder, but supplying you with the ICCS grading with the proper Variety designation? I plan on selling it, perhaps sending it to auction at Heritage. Would buyers be put of if it was in a PCGS slab but not attributed as Obv1 even if it was listed by Heritage as such? I guess a Canadian large cent collector would easily be able to confirm the variety after a careful examination. |
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