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ralph I went ahead and posted it over there to try an get some info hopefully from rick snow. I hope you do not mine
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Metalman - in response to your question about how this particular Indian came into my possession - I bought a bunch of IHCs through a dutch auction on ebay, and this one was in the bunch, so, frankly, the cost of the individual coin wasn't all that much; however, round trip postage, insurance, and fees from ANACS wound up to be a bit more than I had planned on. This is the first, and only, coin that I've ever sent in for grading - new experience. As to the rotated dies being fairtly common in early coins, I read that in some publication, so, in one sense, it's not uncommon, and in another, it's the only IHC with this date to be listed in the rotated die census with this particular degree of rotation. The young man there assigned it an R-6 rating, and sent me an explanation as to why and how he reached that decision, but, no matter the rating, I think it's a unique coin, and I'm right proud to own it. |
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Hi Ralph
Amazing how a coin with this much rotation not only circulated for I would guess a few years to reach a G-4 grade, but then passed through who knows how many hands, to be sold in a dutch auction to finally come into the hands of someone who looked at the coin !!
Cool stuff Ralph !!
Rick
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scoutjim99 - heck no, I don't mind. I appreciate the exposure, and I thank you. Being fairly new to the world of coin collecting, there are so many things I don't know, so any, and all assistance is much appreciated.
I believe I've seen Rick Snow's name in print someplace - I've tried to read as much as I can on this hobby we all share, and sometimes it tends to run together to the point that I can remember pieces of an article, but can't remember where I read it.
I think it's pretty spiffy that I might have a coin that nobody else has - that's a good feeling. One of the perks of coin collecting, I guess.
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Metalman - Yeah, ain't that a kick? I would imagine that the rotation has been noticed by others in the past, and, apparently all who noticed it thought it was just a defected coin. I didn't think too much about it myself when I first got it, but, through the urging and guidance of Jose Cortez and David Grubb at usacoincollectors group on yahoo, I took the steps necessary to get it graded and stuff. Now, it will stay in it's current condition - at least for as long as it's in my possession.
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This is all I have so far Quote Atlantic - Fly-In CLub-) Hello, This is a very nice coin and great job on the pics, I have been told that rotated dies were quite common for Indian cents, I once had an 1865 with an exact 180 degree rotation and it did not bring any more than if it had not been rotated, as far at the value of yours I would guess it would be whatever that market would bring. Nice coin and thanks for posting |
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scoutjim99 - way cool that you already got a response. Reckon that feller should have held onto that 1865 IHC with a 180 degree rotation. I wonder when he sold it - reason for that being I don't think there has been all that much interest in rotated die coins within the general coin collecting community. I think that will change someday - people seem to be scrambling to collect other oddities in coins - why not rotated die coins? If, and when, it does, I'll still have my little Indian tucked away. Thanks. |
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tha club is alittle slow on responces but I am sure some relly good ones are comming so check back
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Ok, what a coincidence, I was just about to post an identical thread. I have a 1864 IHC with 120 degree rotation. Is there any significance to this? Any guesses about a price? Very cool, Ralph! |
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manhandles761991 - way cool that you've got one with a rotated die as well. I've no idea as to the value of my own coin, so I couldn't even venture a guess on your's, but I would suggest you hang onto it. Rotated die coins may become a hot item someday, and, even if they don't, it's a unique coin.
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Bryan1315 - that's a pretty spiffy looking Morgan. You think coins with rotated dies will ever become highly sought after collectibles? Seems like folks are collecting a little bit of everything else in the error field, and any coin with a rotated die is definitely a mint error.
A question - Did NGC indicate the degree of rotation on the slab? I sent mine to ANACS, and they didn't. After getting it back from ANACS, I sent it to Jose Cortez who, not only took the photo for me, but also measured the degree of rotation, and included it in the photo.
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QUOTE FrankLeone from the flY-In CLub. --------------------------------------------------------------------- IMHO it is worth between $30 and $40. Some dates are common with rotation such as 1864-L , 1858. there may be others I cant think of at the moment. Other dates, even though very scarce to rare, just will not bring huge premiums. It is not among the most popular of error types. I have 2 1907s with 180 degree and would sell them BOTH for $500 and would then RUN AS FAST AS I CAN TO THE BANK !! Don't shoot the messenger, just my humble opinion based on lots of experience...Frank. --------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.fly-inclub.org/talk here is some more info for you Ralph. Edited by scoutjim99
08/23/2006 11:18 pm
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Frank - I ambled on over to the Fly-In Club, and intended to register; however, I'm having a little confusion about the application. It asks for my name, then my email address, and then right below that it asks for my password. Does that mean - create a new password for that site, or are they asking me for the personal password I created to access my email? I'm not real comfortable with the latter.
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No Ralph Its me Jim, I am just posting another responce from the fly-In-CLub , Whose name is Frank the editor
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Boy, is my face red!!1 My apologies.
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