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 Posted 10/18/2010  10:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list
Yes, SD, but by doing that you've helped a lot of people get their hands on some for relatively cheap. In the end, it all balances out. Bloomberg predicts $4 copper.
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 Posted 10/18/2010  12:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add timsumrall to your friends list
Nice!! China's booming but they'll feel the crunch trying to urbanize under these prices. It's not just the quanity but quality. Harder and harder to find good metal.
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 Posted 10/18/2010  1:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TenSense to your friends list
Thanks for the update...I've been casually culling copper pennies here and there, and already have 20-30 pounds worth.
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 Posted 10/18/2010  3:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Thanks for the post! End the USA melting prohibition! The other good thing, if they end the prohibition and the value is high enough dealers will start trading in Cu. That would ROCK! We could simply take our copper to a dealer to unload for a nice profit.

I'm sitting on a 5 gal pail of tightly packed cents, about $300 face. I guess I'll continue to sit on it.
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 Posted 10/18/2010  3:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Namachieli to your friends list

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I guess I'll continue to sit on it.


Literally and figuratively. :D
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 Posted 10/18/2010  3:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SDcoinguy to your friends list
how would I melt the copper cents anyway? jsut heat them up? what about the Zinc
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 Posted 10/18/2010  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hockingzig to your friends list
Only the pre 1982 cents have any real copper value. They were at 2.5 cents each in metal value this morning,the zinc cents are worth about .25 cents each I believe(but don't quote me on the zinc cent metal values).
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 Posted 10/18/2010  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tim Stroud to your friends list
Makes you wonder if Uncle Sam will be sorting out the copper cents and replacing with freshly minted 2010's or 2011's and making a profit for the Government.

What am I saying!? Those clowns up in D.C. don't have enough brains to think that one up.
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 Posted 10/18/2010  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fioti to your friends list
Wow! That's great you made a profit. People around here think they're getting ripped at just 2x face, unless they're MS.
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 Posted 10/18/2010  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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We could simply take our copper to a dealer to unload for a nice profit.
Or trade it for store credit towards the coins that we really want for our collections.
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 Posted 10/18/2010  5:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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What am I saying!? Those clowns up in D.C. don't have enough brains to think that one up.

Don't kid yourself, the Fed did it with silver in the 1960's, I could easily see them doing it with copper today. Wouldn't surprise me if they were already doing it.


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this morning,the zinc cents are worth about .25 cents each I believe(but don't quote me on the zinc cent metal values).

If that .25 cent value is for the copper content then the cent is going to be cost the mint over face value again shortly if it isn't already. The zinc content of the Zincolns is worth .58 cents each. That gives it a total metal value of .83 cents.
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 Posted 10/18/2010  5:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gormang to your friends list
Using the latest metal prices and the specifications above, these are the numbers required to calculate melt value:

$1.0847 = zinc price / pound on Oct 18, 2010.
.975 = zinc %
$3.8304 = copper price / pound on Oct 18, 2010.
.025 = copper %
2.5 = total weight in grams
.00220462262 = pound/gram conversion factor (see note directly below)


The NYMEX uses pounds to price these metals, that means we need to multiply the metal price by .00220462262 to make the conversion to grams.



1. Calculate 97.5% zinc value :

(1.0847 Ã- .00220462262 Ã- 2.5 Ã- .975) = $0.0058287


2. Calculate 2.5% copper value :

(3.8304 Ã- .00220462262 Ã- 2.5 Ã- .025) = $0.0005277


3. Add the two together :

$0.0058287 + $0.0005277 = $0.0063564




$0.0063564 is the melt value for the 1982-2010 zinc cent on October 18, 2010.
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 Posted 10/18/2010  6:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add afcop13 to your friends list
I've got about a couple hundred lbs of copper that I need to wrap and put back in the boxes, finding the time seems to be the issue for me.
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 Posted 10/19/2010  09:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add General Tso to your friends list
How would you turn in cents for melt? ( assuming that time would come) How would a dealer go about verifing that they are all copper? If someone were to bring in a large amount it would be pretty tedious to check dates, but thats the only way I see to do it. Silver is easy to check quickly.
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 Posted 10/19/2010  10:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AGCoinHunter to your friends list

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How would you turn in cents for melt? ( assuming that time would come) How would a dealer go about verifing that they are all copper? If someone were to bring in a large amount it would be pretty tedious to check dates, but thats the only way I see to do it. Silver is easy to check quickly.


Machines out there sort out CU cents already. Ryedale is the name of the machine. There are many dedicated sorters out there now sorting out as much CU as they can. The melt ban will eventually be lifted and they will be cashing these in.
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