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1936-S Over 1929 Possible Over Date.

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 Posted 12/25/2010  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list

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1942 over 1941, and 1942 over 1941-D.
Well, sure--those are well-documented with numerous examples of re-hubbing a die from the previous year.

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I would say nothing is impossible when you involve a government agency. By your analysis these coins don't exist either.
Honestly, I don't see how this applies to striking coins because manufacturing processes, not to mention bureacracy, tend to limit what is possible.

If a new overdate turned up I'd think that would be cool. But, like others, I haven't seen enough evidence (or documentation) to be convinced. That's about it--best wishes.
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12/25/2010 6:42 pm
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 Posted 12/25/2010  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add insideout to your friends list
1942 over 1941, and 1942 over 1941-D. That is only a year time span if that depending on when they actually stopped minting the 41's.
IMO the 8 year period seems a bit long. Plus you would think you would see more of the trace of a 9 where the 6 is.

Of course there is always the possibility of the human factor I guess. I'm not sure how the whole process works. Just adding my 2 cents.

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 Posted 12/25/2010  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arsave to your friends list
As I said in the original post--possible. All I ask is people keep an open mind. I have supplied CONECA with images along with some others on the PCGS message board to disprove the coin. If they could prove it isn't possible I'm sure I would have heard about it by now.
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 Posted 12/26/2010  3:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add x78089 to your friends list
well, I hope this all turns out for you. Having two of four known works out well for you.
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 Posted 12/27/2010  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
The 1942/1 overdates aren't even a one year span because they were making both dates of dies at the same time in late 1941. But since the 1870s all of the previous years dated dies and hubs are destroyed either at the end of the year or before April of the following year (It varied from year to year.) The chances of a dated die sitting around for six years is VERY unlikely. (I have to admit though it does look intriguing.) The longest span I can think of off the top of my head in the US series is three years fro the 1839/6 large cent, or the 1827/5/3 quarter.
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12/27/2010 08:32 am
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 Posted 02/09/2011  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arsave to your friends list
Here is my newest image of the number 3. I hadn't noticed the loop inside the top loop of the three before. The first image shows the raw 3; the second 3 shows the highlights of the 2 underneath outlined by green and gold.
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 Posted 02/10/2011  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidZerbato to your friends list
With that last pic, I can see the two underneath. Regardless, it's a very interesting variety.
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 Posted 02/10/2011  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list
I'm am a little confused by the fact that I hear many people saying PCGS is the premier TPG...then seeing that most don't agree this is real.The other thing I wonder is why the entire slab isn't pictured ? Not being skeptical, just puzzled
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 Posted 02/10/2011  9:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arsave to your friends list
Here is an image of the slab on the XF45 coin. It is attributed FS-110. The the 1936/29-S Possible overdate con be found on page 61 of the CherryPickers' Guide.
This the only image I could find were I took a photo of the slab, and there is a second variety in the image a 1945-D over D FS-501 which can be found on page 72 of the Cherrypickers's Guide.

I find it interesting that you say most don't agree, I have sent images to CONECA, because they said they wanted to study it further, and they are not able to disprove the coin. I have also sent images to a couple of people on the PCGS message board who were going to disprove it, but no one has disproved it. It is very easy to simply dismiss the coin and say it can't be so; however, I have been very willing to share images and no one has offered evidence that it is something else.

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02/10/2011 9:47 pm
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 Posted 02/11/2011  07:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list
After looking a bit,I'm with coppertop. Looks like a die chip/gouge coupled with doubling on the 3. As you stated before, this will always be controversial.
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 Posted 02/12/2011  9:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list
With 2 in hand, I would think its just simple...Submit the coin, it's worth the time to send it in and have it put it in plastic....
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 Posted 02/14/2011  07:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arsave to your friends list
They are in plastic.

They are both attributed as FS-101 by PCGS. The FS-101 on the holder is the number for the variety.
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 Posted 02/14/2011  08:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list
arsave, I didn't want to point that out..it seemed too obvious
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 Posted 02/19/2011  11:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list
I do have an 1898/1868 Barber dime overdate...
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 Posted 02/20/2011  2:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arsave to your friends list
Cool,ShadowCreator,send it off to PCGS and see if they will give it an attribution like the did with the FS-110 in this thread. Keep us posted on your results.
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