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ANACS: MS And Pl?

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 Posted 11/16/2010  4:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canadian-Banknotes to your friends list
Really?
Now I am really confused.

Why would a PL be worth more than a business strike in such a high grade? I thought you could get PL coins from sets (which are all high grade, because they are made for collectors) while a business strike is made for circulation so the Government doesn't mind if they are not high MS graded coins.

Just to clarify:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1958-Canada-Dim...ht_986wt_905

That coin listed on ebay right now has both the MS grade and the PL written on the holder. Just like the coin in my example. Is the term "PL" used the same way "Cameo" or "Toning" is used? Is it a comment on the coin?

I really appreciate all the help Adam_E.
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 Posted 11/16/2010  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list
well if you bought an MS-64 toned coin off ebay I think there would be a bigger premium for them, the same thing goes for PL.
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 Posted 11/16/2010  5:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canadian-Banknotes to your friends list
Oh, so there is a premium on top of the MS grade because of this PL designation?
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 Posted 11/16/2010  5:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list
yes
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 Posted 11/16/2010  5:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canadian-Banknotes to your friends list
Thanks again!
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 Posted 11/16/2010  5:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canadian-Banknotes to your friends list
Does ANACS grade normal PL coins?
and if they do are they graded like my example 2? (PL-65)
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 Posted 11/16/2010  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list
i think it would be like MS-64 PL
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 Posted 11/16/2010  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canadian-Banknotes to your friends list
So my example coin is a PL?

Or is it only a PL if its written right next to the grade?

They make it so confusing...
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11/16/2010 6:33 pm
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 Posted 11/16/2010  7:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list
i think it should be next to the grade
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 Posted 11/16/2010  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canadian-Banknotes to your friends list
Thanks Adam_E you were right again.

http://www.davidlawrence.com/invent...lotid/698642

In the link I provided, the coin has the "PL" written right next to the grade, unlike my previous examples.
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 Posted 11/16/2010  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list
no problem, glad I could help
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 Posted 11/18/2010  11:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsrfun to your friends list
ANACS does not grade a Canadian coin properly on any day. To insinuate they do if silly. PCGS is the only American Company which comes close, but they are wrong most days. Remember......Canadian standards for Canadian coins.....y'all can grade US standards on y'alls stuff.
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 Posted 11/19/2010  01:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hhbkiddo to your friends list
coinsrfun........
as usual,
YOU are on the ball and..absolutely CORRECT.........
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they grade Canadian coins well on the u.s. standard.......
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 Posted 12/15/2010  9:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1cent to your friends list
The 1935 dollar would be MS, the 10c in the link is PL. ANACS is terrible for Canadian coins because they try and grade them the same way as they grade US coins. A PL in Canada comes from a mint set (or as a single coin in some cases) from the years of roughly 1949 to 1975. An MS coin is a business strike. It's one or the other, there is no "MS PL". You might have an MS coin with nice luster, but it's not PL. Canada also never had "proofs", we had specimens. To call the aforementioned mint issued coins proof-like is a misnomer on it's own, as there was no corresponding proof coin issue in Canada to relate this to, until the official production of proof coin sets in 1981. The whole thing is one massive mess of confusion that will never be properly sorted out. As if that wasn't enough, even our own Canadian companies can't agree on terminology, sometimes even with themselves. ICCS may call a given coin PL or NBU depending on the age of the flip, CCCS will use neither term and call it "UNC".
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