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 Posted 01/01/2011  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cazzuey to your friends list
thanks guys, but could you see why I thought it could've been one, from the second pic?
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 Posted 01/01/2011  7:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
I've had false alarms on this coin all the time. Now that I've seen photos of half the known specimens, it's getting easier to spot.
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could you see why I thought it could've been one

--the mark at 7:00 on the last 8? If that's it...I've been fooled by dirt in the exact spot too.
There are a few obverse dies with a very similar date position, which is why the rim Cud is a quick check.
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 Posted 01/01/2011  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cazzuey to your friends list
I'll keep working on photos
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 Posted 01/01/2011  7:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cazzuey to your friends list
I tried sharpening it.
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 Posted 01/01/2011  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
compare the position of the "1" in 1888 to the point of the bust against the pic I posted.
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 Posted 01/01/2011  10:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cazzuey to your friends list
snow-2 is a fake right?
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 Posted 01/01/2011  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
The Snow-2 "1888/7" was discovered in 1990, and was billed as an overdate.
Since then, there has been conflicting expert opinion on the variety, but the latest research suggests it's not an overdate, but an 1888/1888 repunched date. Is that what you think your coin is? The markers on that coin are more subtle, so you will need much more detailed pics of the date and lower bust area to tell online.
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 Posted 01/01/2011  10:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cazzuey to your friends list
Is that one worth anything?
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 Posted 01/01/2011  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
Yes, the Snow-2 is also well-known, some consider it an overdate, and it's sold for a premium. It's actually possible to find one too.
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 Posted 01/01/2011  11:47 pm  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list
1888 Snow-1: From Rick Snow's attribution guide: "Die stage A: No Cud at 9:00. Die stage B: A large rim Cud into the denticles at 9:00 ..."
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 Posted 01/01/2011  11:49 pm  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list
And just to be clear, no, I don't think this is the actual overdate, just some PMD in the date region.
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 Posted 01/01/2011  11:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list

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From Rick Snow's attribution guide: "Die stage A: No Cud at 9:00. Die stage B: A large rim Cud into the denticles at 9:00 ..."
Yeah...but die stage A must have been brief (I didn't BS you about what Rick Snow told me). To the point, I want to see an example...anywhere.
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 Posted 01/02/2011  08:07 am  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list
Here is one without a rim Cud:

http://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/sho...aspx?sc=722#

then scroll down and click on '2169' next to '1888/7' - NOT the image of the coin next in the far left column - that one will bring up a different picture.
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 Posted 01/02/2011  08:12 am  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list
Here's one with a really really really tiny Cud, http://coins.ha.com/common/view_ima...nly.php?img=http://images.ha.com/lf%3Fsource=url[file:images/inetpub/newnames/300/4/8/6/6/4866304.jpg"]%2Ccontinueonerror[true]&source=url[file:images/inetpub/webuse/no_image_available.gif]%2Cif[(%27global.source.error%27)]&sink=preservemd[true]

It's easy to see how this would be completely obscured in a lower grade.
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 Posted 01/02/2011  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list

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It's easy to see how this would be completely obscured in a lower grade.
I took a look at the G6 example, and since the denticles are worn off at 9:00, I'm not sure I can confirm or deny a rim Cud from the pics.

Robbudo, thanks for those links If I find a higher-grade die state A, I'll post it to the forums. I just remembered something. I forget who wrote it, but it's speculated this die started deteriorating in 1887. The die was then redated for 1888 and was retired due to the rim Cud. This may explain why so few overdates exist.
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