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Forum Mom
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I thought that ebay had killed the auction - not that the seller had ended it early. If ebay kills an auction, you can't view it any longer.  |
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Pillar of the Community
Belgium
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I don't know about the holder but the coin would only get in spitting distance of an MS65 on very good day  |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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The seller ended the auction early "because the item is no longer available". ebay doesn't give sellers very many options for reasons for ending an auction. It should include: "This auction is a fraud and I got caught.", "I ended it because in my stupidity, I listed it wrong.", "It was pointed out to me that I overgraded the coin by 11 points.", and "The  made me do it." Fred  |
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New Member
United States
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Has anyone looked at the date on this coin? I've looked closely and MAYBE there is a mint mark? Could it be a "D"? It wasn't noted on the slab label. Could even the coin be a fake? Here's a blowup of the area...  |
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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that's what I was thinking also, even though I didn't notice the mint mark. But it definitely does look like a "D" to me as well. I believe if someone would have purchased this item they would have been really disappointed.
Edited to add:Welcome to the forum, Good eye you have there, gonna have to get you a eagle icon for having a eagle eye
Edited by Bryan1315
09/12/2006 07:02 am
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Forum Mom
United States
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Good thought, Marv and welcome to our CC family.  What you are seeing is not a mint mark. It's a design under the date. The mint mark on these coins is above the date. |
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Valued Member
United States
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quote:
Originally posted by Marv
Has anyone looked at the date on this coin? I've looked closely and MAYBE there is a mint mark?
Could it be a "D"? It wasn't noted on the slab label. Could even the coin be a fake?
Here's a blowup of the area...
that is a picture of Augustus St. Gaudens' monogram (an A superimposed on an S). Like Susan said the MM is above the date |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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quote:
Originally posted by Morgan Fred
"The made me do it."
Fred
Now Fred! Your being kind of hard on the , aren't you? |
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New Member
United States
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I am learning everyday. I went ofer to the PCGS price guide site and looked at some of the photos there. Those MM's are definately above the dates but boy are they small compaired to the monogram.
BTW, even blowing up this area it looks too worn to be an MS67. It's still difficult to make out the "2'. And without the blowup the face is flat with no detail like the one on PCGS website shows.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I agree, it is definitely not a MS-67 coin. I guess I showed my ignorance about the series as well because I thought it looked like a D mint mark also. I would love to see that coin in hand and see if it was even a real coin. there is a man with the nick name Omega Man that made counterfeit double eagles that fooled allot of people for awhile and maybe he would have never gotten figured out if he hadn't put the omega sign hidden in the talon of the eagle on the reverse and that's why they named him the omega man
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The Omega counterfeits have only been found for the 1907 high relief varieties that run well into the five figure range for value. An estimated 20,000 counterfeits exist and even a known counterfeit can command the same amount of money or even more than a common date St. Gaudens since the counterfeits have the correct gold alloy and are such an accurate design.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I got 1907 and 1927 mixed up, thanks for setting me straight
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New Member
United States
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I am still hoping to see something official from ANACS regarding this coin and holder. Hopefully, we'll see a post here. I know it's probably too soon right now.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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maybe when James Taylor comes in on the 26th he will address this issue, but I dont count on it, he will probably be answering more of the "whats the compny doing now" questions
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Forum Mom
United States
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I doubt that James will email me with the results of this, but he will be answering questions here on the 26th. When he was here in January, he only let one question go by without answering it and that was because it was a question that really wasn't answerable since it would have revealed private ANACS info.
I would think that James will be more than happy to answer questions about this slab. It would be helpful to everyone to know how ANACS deals with fraud.
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