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1909 S VDB On Ebay Over $12,000

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 Posted 01/09/2011  10:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaymon74 to your friends list
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 Posted 01/09/2011  11:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list

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it seems possible- some people at the fun show had like 10-20 in MS

I was going to say something like this, I have seen after big shows like the one that just ended people selling quite a few of the same rare date of certain coins or of allot of different coins. They may have paid $10,000.00 at the show and brought them home and just made a couple thousand very quickly because they know not everyone made it to the show and these coins always sell pretty high on ebay so they thought they could make some money selling to the ones that didn't make it to the show
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 Posted 01/09/2011  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Johnny1328 to your friends list
I was wondering also, in what time period did he sell those. Has it been over several years or a few months. I would think if it was over several months, then something is going on. On the other hand if this has been the total over 5, 6, 7 years. That could be feasable.
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 Posted 01/09/2011  11:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list
Could be possible over several months too. Susan and I walked a show once with a former member here that had a quarter million dollar credit line with his bank tied to his checking account. Meaning he could write checks and if it was over what was in his account, it would just roll over to his credit line and the check would be paid. We watched him write almost 150K worth of checks to buy coins that he knew he could flip in a week. Made 10K profit in 10 days and no interest. He did this almost every major show.
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 Posted 01/10/2011  12:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lincolncentguy to your friends list
$12,090 for a cent!! Thats just crazy! I still need that one though for my collection.
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 Posted 01/13/2011  10:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gutkowski to your friends list
Seems like the buyer of this 1909sVDB has bought from the same seller in Nov-22-10 11:45
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 Posted 01/13/2011  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USArmyParatrooper to your friends list
Man, some beautiful 09-S-VDB's! I'm dying to know the story behind his goldmine inventory, especially if it's real.

If only I could win a mega powerball.

Incidentally my sister is the Sr. Accounting Manager for a billionaire. Not for his company... for HIM! He has an accounting department just for his personal finances. As it turns out she tells me he collects ancient coins. I would kill to see his collection, although I know nothing about ancients. I asked her if I could meet him and talk coins with him, but apparently he keeps it strictly professional between himself and his staff.
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 Posted 01/13/2011  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Nice coin!
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 Posted 01/14/2011  01:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list
Mintage was 484,000 and most were hoarded immediately as collector coins. Hence, there are very large numbers of this coin floating around in MS condition. For a seller willing to pay top dollar, many hundreds could easily be accumulated.

EDIT: Assuming an average price of $1680, a roll in MS would cost about $84,000. Not beyond the means of your typical American middle class family; might mean a second mortgage, maxing out a credit card or two, etc... but it is not Bill Gates money.

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 Posted 01/14/2011  09:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list
A roll of 1856 flying eagles would be Bill Gates $
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 Posted 01/14/2011  10:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list
I think the 1955 double die is another one where there are at least tend of thousands of them out there yet, due to the demand, they command a high price. Most are also in high grade since they were horded when the error was first discovered.

It wouldn't surprise me if a few investors are parked on whole safes full of 1909-S VDB's and 1955 DD's with an intent to "trickle them out" to hobbyists over time with ever-escalating prices. Similar to how a few investors can corner the market on silver by hording mass quantities of the physical metal.

If the flood gates ever really opened on those issues, prices could drop sharply as supply catches up to and exceeds demand.
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 Posted 01/14/2011  11:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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...a roll in MS would cost about $84,000. Not beyond the means of your typical American middle class family...
It is beyond your means if you are in a responsible American middle class family.

But you did say typical...

However, one has to view this from a business standpoint. I think $84,000 is well under a typical small business line of credit.
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 Posted 01/14/2011  11:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add monkeyman67 to your friends list
12k for a penny. I found a silver dime the other day and was happpy. I am going to throw it away now.
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 Posted 01/14/2011  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DylansDad to your friends list
If I recall, they have discussed these auctions over on the PCGS boards. The coins are legit a board member there knew the guy and he had a couple rolls of these graded and is indeed trickling them into the market.
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 Posted 01/15/2011  12:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverFossil64 to your friends list
seems there is money to be made in being able to distinguish the very fine differences in grades if a guy can go to a coin show to buy and flip for that much. nice pennies...
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