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Todays Purchase 1864 Two Cent

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 Posted 01/25/2011  5:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add w1a9c8k5 to your friends list
very nice pick up
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 Posted 01/25/2011  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jakeW to your friends list
awesome 2 cent piece!
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 Posted 01/25/2011  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list

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Anyone care to assign a grade and or price.

Since you are the one I always look to answer about these things, what do you grade it?
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 Posted 01/26/2011  07:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nohope587 to your friends list
The 2x2 was labeled MS64 by the seller. I have found he has a tendency to be on the generous side on his grading but he is not adverse to customers who have differing opinions. The 2x2 was also labeled $165.
I graded it MS62 Brown and compared it to a PCGS MS62 I had with me. I always take a grade set with me these days as I find its the quickest way to convince a seller his grading might be in error. I paid $110 for the coin. I did ask if there was anything special about it as he had several lower grade pieces labeled RPD and DD. He said no, so I did not feel the need to point out the variety even thought the diagnostics are fairly obvious even to the naked eye.
I should never have gone to the show as my new years resolutions truly to save money but I am glad I did as it filled one of the holes in my variety set and with a nice example this time.
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 Posted 12/04/2011  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JadeSpear to your friends list
Greetings All,

New to this forum. Please allow me to weigh in.
The obverse has questionable wear signs on the arrow heads, lower shield, and leaves adjacent to lower shield. I see possible signs of friction in the coloration of the high points. Perhaps it is the lighting you used in your shots. I prefer a high resolution scanner or using a macro lens, shooting from within 15mm of coin with axial sources of natural and full spectrum lighting. I also may use a black felt backdrop to force a slight overexposure of my coin. This helps show the details better including all imperfections. In my humble opinion this coin grades more like MS60 slider. Hope my contribution helps.
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 Posted 12/04/2011  8:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JadeSpear to your friends list
Forgot to congratulate you on your rare find. Which guide may I ask that you found the variety rarity?
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 Posted 12/04/2011  11:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jeffrose to your friends list
Jade - looking forward to absorbing more of your knowledge.
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 Posted 12/05/2011  12:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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I prefer a high resolution scanner or using a macro lens, shooting from within 15mm of coin with axial sources of natural and full spectrum lighting.


Point of curiosity - what macro lens requires such a close focusing distance? Canon's 100mm Macro has a minimum focusing distance of 300mm, and I rarely need to get get closer than 150mm with my 75mm lens for something the size of a Cent.
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 Posted 12/05/2011  06:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JadeSpear to your friends list
Hello,

I use a point and shoot Fuji s7000 which has a super-macro feature which allows me to shoot down to 5mm. I can shoot so close I see the most minute metal imperfections and properties. Shooting at a greater distance with a macro lens will not get the near-microscopic details needed to properly analyze the condition of a coin. I also study ancient ceramics. Which this type of detail is essential for identifying age. I believe that at 150mm (15cm) it is impossible to get the detail I like to 'require' for my purposes. I will post a shot from my camera later today. I have to go to work now.
Thanks,
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 Posted 12/05/2011  06:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JadeSpear to your friends list
Also Super, my brother is a professional photographer and he has Nikon DSLR cameras and lens and is able to shoot within 15mm. I do not know which size macro lens he uses. He also has my point and shoot Fuji as a quick backup. This is only from my personal experience. As mentioned I've been shooting ancient ceramics diagnostics for the last 9 years. I will post a sample in the near future.

Hi ho, hi ho, it's off to work I go.....
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 Posted 12/05/2011  10:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Ah. Having mentioned the preference for a dedicated macro lens, I'd thought that was your setup. Knowing you're using a point-and-shoot, I quite understand the close distance. Thank you.
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 Posted 12/05/2011  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JadeSpear to your friends list
Hello,

I am attaching 2 images of an Ichibu (MS-63) that I just taken with my Fuji s7000 point and shoot digital camera. It has been rated for years as having one of the best built-in macro lens of any point and shoot camera 'ever'. The first one was shot in single macro at a distance of approx. 10" (25.5cm). The next was shot in super-macro at approx. 2" (5cm). Notice the difference in resolution. I used a textured black backdrop for convenience and 2 axial natural light and full spectrum florescent tubes each operating at 3200 degree Calvin.

BTW, Because of this forum upload limitation. My file size is severely compromised. Normally my images are 1.5mg and larger. Anyhow. What do you think?

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 Posted 12/05/2011  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JadeSpear to your friends list
Oops! Would help if the 2nd image was of the same side of the coin as the first. Here it is, (Ichibu3), at the 'super-macro' approx. @5cm. Please let me know what you think.

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 Posted 12/05/2011  8:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JadeSpear to your friends list
I managed to upload the wrong picture again. Here is the higher resolution image from approx. 5cm of the obverse of this Ichibu.

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 Posted 12/05/2011  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JadeSpear to your friends list
Super, you were correct.
I was able to shoot at a farther distance than I thought. Normally with appraising ceramics, I shoot far closer as mentioned before. But with coins, I can shoot further. Thanks for weighing in and enlightening me.
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