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Very Strange 20$ Bill. Help Please?

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 Posted 03/12/2011  09:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ugly to your friends list
They will also pick up dyes from unusual places, stuck in the pages of a damp magazine, sitting on a fast food tray and so on. I had a five turn almost purple when the kids stuck some silly putty on it.

Nothing about the note scares me looking at it... if it feels right and security strip is accurate, I'd say it's simply a regular damaged bank note.
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 Posted 03/12/2011  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add neweden to your friends list
First rule of thumb when looking for counterfeit bills is to run your first finger and thumb very lightly along either side of the bill, you are looking for raised ridges from the printing, then check the maple leaf strip for change of colour along the left side of the face.
Also look for fibres all over the bill both back and front.
On the surface your bill looks fine to me, as for the pink/red hues, sun light or humidity could cause this along with a miriad of other reasons.
Hope this helps.
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 Posted 03/12/2011  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ikandiggit to your friends list
When I search bundles of notes, I come across a variety of colors. All the reasons given above are logical.
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 Posted 03/13/2011  11:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list
New counterfeits can reproduce the hidden numbers and faces so don't rely on that. The number one thing you should look for is the metallic strip on the BACK. It is interweaved in the paper itself. Forget the hologram, as those can also be reproduced. Feel the paper's quality by rubbing it in your fingers and thumbs for a short time. You should be able to tell with a blindfold on. There are raised bumps on the big number 20. Another thing that is hard but not impossible to countefeit is the tiny tiny printing saying Bank of Canada over and over. Both samples turned out about the same.

Another note about the fibres: make sure they are actual fibres in the paper and not just scanned on. They also glow under UV light. (So do most new commemorative quarters!)

The one thing that really bothers me about this bill is the purple SQUARE where it's not supposed to be. Either that's a huge mess-up or you have a counterfeit. OR, that's just the way they were made until 2008. Also, the raised bumps at the top right corner of the front aren't quite there, but lots of bills have worn down bumps. I don't see any traces of them on the 2nd bill. Everything else about the bill looks legit, even the imprinted part that says CANADA running along the right border on the back.

If you're still not sure, send it to me! :D
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03/13/2011 12:15 pm
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 Posted 03/13/2011  12:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list
I'm intrigued now. The purple square leaks out to the other side and smears the woman's face a bit. What are the exact dimensions of that square? Then we can begin to guess what was placed on the bill and for roughly how long. My guess: a sofa leg without carpet underneath. Any crinkles or creases on the bill that the scan didn't pick up?
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 Posted 03/13/2011  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thatcanuckyguy to your friends list
My money is on the 2008 being a counterfeit, something is just not right with it...or quite possible it is a mess-up at the mint but unlikely.
Best bet is to back-light them and see if the Queens embedded image shows through and the puzzle 20 connects.
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 Posted 03/14/2011  08:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rodime to your friends list
actually, it's best to drop it in a bank machine and let the banks figure it out.
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 Posted 03/17/2011  6:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ikandiggit to your friends list
Check out the microprinting on your note. If it is soft or blurred, then it's counterfeit. If it's crisp like any other note then it's legit.
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 Posted 03/18/2011  06:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsnpaper to your friends list
The embossing on the numbers can be easily copied with heat embossing equipment. Check the see-through registration device (vertical 20 next to the big 20 ). Check the watermark (queen) that it is dark when light is shown behind the bill (and not printed on the surface), and that the details are good- this is one of the biggest failings of counterfeits. . Check that the strip is 2 colour- the counterfeits I have seen have only 1 colour. Check the microprinting- the bottom row of text, the twenty below the Queen, and the fine lines and printing all over the bill. Check that the ink does not run when it is wet- Some counterfeits do, but not all. Check that the paper feels right. Check the fibres are solid with a light behind them- the counterfeit ones can fade out. Also check the weaving of the 20 CAN strip- that it is visible, and complete.These are the visual and tactile tests that you can carry out easily.
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 Posted 03/19/2011  01:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add splatto to your friends list
No one has pointed this out yet, but look at the vertical-dashed strip on the left side of the back of the two notes. One one note it goes between the 20, on the other it goes right over the 2 in 20.
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 Posted 03/19/2011  01:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ikandiggit to your friends list
The strip position varies. If you havs a stack of notes and flip them, the strip wavers back and forth.
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 Posted 03/19/2011  07:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commoncents13 to your friends list
-Icandiit- I can agree with that, that' all I seen on it. Not strange if that's all but all I can see. Right now time for bed.
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 Posted 03/23/2011  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kniceone to your friends list
Just take it to a First Choice Haircut store and ask them to check it for you - they have a marker that when applied to the bill will either turn yellow on a counterfeit or appear black on the regular bill.
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 Posted 03/28/2011  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NickleHalfDime to your friends list
This is all very interesting information you've given.

I must be having a bad week because I can't find the bill ANYWHERE. I couldn't possible have put it back in my wallet, could I? I must have. I can't find it anywhere. This is the first time I can't remember what I did with a 20$ bill.

So frustrating!
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 Posted 03/29/2011  01:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commoncents13 to your friends list
I wouldn't loose any sleep over it!
---Fortunately from what I see it's nothing that I have not seen before.
---That security strip if I can call it that, does very in alignment sometimes as if seen so your OK if you spent it, cause you got what it's worth $20 IMO!
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