Anc?

I especially like the useless photos. Why would I care what a coin looks like sideways in the slab? Doesn't say much for the actual condition of the coin in the plastic, does it?

Noxx - Don't feel too bad. I hope that you got a good item from this guy. I am also new to the hobby and have overpaid for a number of things. Knowledge is key! That is why I am here. At the very least I have learned that what appears too be a GREAT deal, probably isn't.

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Originally posted by Morgan Fred

Noxx, ALL of us have done this and gone through the experience. It's part of the learning experience. I just hope it wasn't too expensive a lesson for you. If you get a chance, I wouldn't mind seeing a decent picture of the coin you bought so to be able to assess its actual grade from whatever it stated on the slab.

Fred

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Cheap lesson, about $40.. when I get the slab, I'll get a pic for ya, as best I can with my digi cam anyway.

He sounds honest, but wait until he's confirmed receipt of the coin and refunded your money.

I'm having a hard time reconciling the fact he's the only seller offering ANC slabs and his statement he bought them from someone else. However, giving him some of the benefit of the doubt, he may just be trying to save face if he indeed was the slabber and had a false impression of his grading capabilities.

Fred

Noxx, how did you learn that ANC is in Oregon? I noticed there's a URL on the reverse of the slab, but it's too indistinct to make it out. I couldn't find anything on a Google on "American Numismatic Company", so the website must have a different address.

Fred

Thanks, Noxx. The ANC website doesn't give much info. A little detective work and we find that the domain is registered in Florida (from WhoIs):

Domain Name.......... anccoin.com
Creation Date........ 2006-04-12
Registration Date.... 2006-04-12
Expiry Date.......... 2008-04-12
Organisation Name.... Beatty Spencer
Organisation Address. 14911 Gentilly Place
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. tampa
Organisation Address. 33624
Organisation Address. FL
Organisation Address. UNITED STATES

Admin Name........... Beatty Spencer
Admin Address........ 14911 Gentilly Place
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ tampa
Admin Address........ 33624
Admin Address........ FL
Admin Address........ UNITED STATES
Admin Email.......... anccoin@yahoo.com
Admin Phone.......... +1.9046852327
Admin Fax............

Tech Name............ YahooDomains TechContact
Tech Address......... 701 First Ave.
Tech Address.........
Tech Address......... Sunnyvale
Tech Address......... 94089
Tech Address......... CA
Tech Address......... UNITED STATES
Tech Email........... domain.tech@YAHOO-INC.COM
Tech Phone........... +1.6198813096
Tech Fax.............
Name Server.......... yns1.yahoo.com
Name Server.......... yns2.yahoo.com

Let us know if this name or address sounds familiar (the Yahoo address is just the host). Also, if you still have it, the return address, postmark, and, if used, Delivery Confirmation or other on/offline USPS tracking info would be helpful. I suspect the Oregon address given on the website is just a blind or forwarding address used as a cover. If someone were to actually send something to the address, I would expect it to be forwarded to Florida and, vice versa, the OR address could be used for shipping.

Given this new information, my suspicions are raised even more.

Fred

If an alphabet grading company (I refuse to call most of them "service") has a website, here's the URL to track down their domain registration.

http://www.directnic.com/whois/

For as little as $6.95 per year (and probably a couple minor additional charges plus two Wheaties boxtops) you too can have your own domain! Noxx.com is already taken, but there's still Noxx.us and several others. http://www.directnic.com/whois/?query=noxx.com .

Fred

ANC is basicly a "slabs his own" operation, but they do supposedly accept outside submissions as well. They have been around for awhile, probably about a year and a half to two years, but they didn't have the website until recently. They have used three different slab designs.