MS-60 Morgan Dollars

Yes, I know, I'm not interested in that as their examples are mediocre at best and they only show 1 example. You need to look at many examples to get an idea of the variables. Thanks, mshev.

I don't think you folks are understanding the point of this thread! I have been colecting Morgans since 1968 and have seen thousands of examples of MS60/61's. I thought if we could get some posts up of Forum members examples we could discuss and use for future reference when grading. I don't consider myself the ultimate coin grader but I've seen and graded my share.I have though witnessed many coins posted here that folks have graded 60 or 61 only referencing nicks in the field or on the face never mentioning their thoughts on the coins Luster or Strike which are the biggest factor in giving a Morgan its grade...myself included. anyways...anyone have any examples that they can post, not links to other sites? Thanks again..

Yeah, Thanks Dave...I think this would help us all in understanding MS grading. When I see a persons coin graded MS60/61 I wonder how they/we come up with this grade as bagmarks alone will not give you this. Up until about 1980, + or - a few years we considered all BU coins(MS60-to about MS64) as MS60, unless they were Gems, and then we considered them MS65. With this being said, I am really interested in an MS60 grade. I suppose only Key Dates are submitted for grading in what is considered MS60 condition as to get above the AU grade.

Also Dave, I guarantee you that if any of us on the Forum had lots of $$$ and we hade the opportunity to buy an MS60 graded Key Date Morgan instead of an AU and without the possibility of aquiring any grade higher we would do it in a minute!

PLEASE, I DON'T WANT LINKS!! I own MS60/61 raw coins. I can't upload photos to show!! Thanks for the effort BH1964....This is not for me personally, it is for us all on the Forum in an attempt of mine for future use here on the Forum..

I think the problem is most Morgans just aren't worth the grading fee in MS-60 and I think getting a real MS-60 is just about as tough as getting a AU-58. Either they have to much wear and it makes them an AU-55 or its at least a MS-61 or 62 and not MS-60

Here are a couple. I have been called out on this board a couple times for suggesting coins are in the ms60-62 range, but I think they are more common than people think. Some people seem to grade any coin with excessive bag marks as MS63 by default, when in reality they may grade lower. A lot of people post pictures here and the responses help them determine whether or not to send a coin in for grading, so an accurate assessment is pretty important.

The first one from PGCS. This one has a decent strike and good luster, but lots of bag marks.




Here's one from ANACS. This one I feel is undergraded. It has some toning which kills the luster. This is the only reason I can see that they graded it this low.