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Is It Time To Take Gold Profits?

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 Posted 05/19/2011  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hockingzig to your friends list
Yep Fredd,I look at it several times a day. I think I may take some profits this week and stock up my freezer and pantry then wait a week or so and take what is left and get back into gold. This stagnation and daily up and down of the dollar seems like a good jumping off point for taking some profits.By the way,all my metals are physical so puts,etc. are not going to do me any good now. We really need to do lunch some day soon and talk investments. I really am a newbie at investments and need to get educated. I will drop you an email in the next day or so about lunch. Do you have any particular favorite lunch spots in Shermanville? Let me know!
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 Posted 05/19/2011  11:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list

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.By the way,all my metals are physical so puts,etc. are not going to do me any good now.


Puts are protection, like insurance. It won't prevent a tree from falling on your house, but will pay to make you whole again.

The profit on the put counteracts the loss on the physicals.

Lunch is doable.
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 Posted 05/20/2011  12:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list

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I really am a newbie at investments and need to get educated.

At one time, even the best of investors was in your position. My advice is to learn all you can about investing, especially the language of it. Reading was my path to learning about investing. Lots of good info is available for those who seek it. Personal financial magazines are a good place to start. There are many good web sites that also address this topic. One of my favs was Investopedia. There are also a lot of good books available as well and many libraries stock them.
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 Posted 07/21/2011  05:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mmerlinn to your friends list
You could sell SOME of the gold, then buy silver with it. The gold/silver ratio right now is 40 to 1, considerably different from 60 to 1 a few months ago and 16 to 1 in 1979.

Silver could easily get back in the range of 30 to 1 or better. If so, then your underlying value would increase over time. On the downside, silver could fall, but any long term fall (not likely) would mean gold would crash. Gold could crash harder than silver.

Even if you don't do anything now, you might want to watch the gold/silver ratio. If it gets back to 50 to 1 or worse, you might want to move half of your gold to silver.

Historically, the ratio is too high at 40 to 1. At 50 to 1 I would put all new money in silver. At 60 to 1 I would dump gold and buy silver.
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 Posted 07/21/2011  12:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list
The best price you can have in your inventory is zero.

If you sell enuf to get back your original investment, you can never lose on the part you keep. Sorta like buying 40% halves when silver was $3.50, if silver didn't go up, they were spendable.

Take the cash and buy PM, at 10-20% less than you can wholesale it. It doesn't take much silver to make $1000, buy it at $900 and make a quick $100.
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 Posted 07/21/2011  1:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list
I am sorting my silver and gold (1/2 ounce First Spouse) for auction to pay for some bills.
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07/21/2011 1:05 pm
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 Posted 07/21/2011  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list
Keep in mind Hock started this thread back on May 11th, and gold was close to 1500 an oz. then seems like. In hindsight not selling seems like it would have been the best move IMO and I am not sure what Hock did, but I am thinking he held off going from recent posts. Gold has went up another 100 since then, and sure it fell back around $1590 today, but was it not just a couple of weeks ago that it was setting at $1480?

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 Posted 07/21/2011  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hockingzig to your friends list
You are right Silverhawk,I have been standing pat for several months now because I don't see any obvious directional changes. I am just waiting to see what happens come September when I believe we will see QE3.
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 Posted 07/21/2011  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list
Good deal, glad you held off, as who knows maybe 2000 grand an oz. by Christmas, that would make for a Merry holiday eh, lol....

I understand that profit taking needs to happen, but my big question is when you cash in and make the profit, are you gonna blow it (I doubt you will do that), or will you re-invest, and if so in what? Land, maybe platinum, more gold and silver, lol. However to sell it, and unless you waited for a dip to buy back, I can't see that as anything other than a trade or upgrade....

Perhaps seems like a dumb question, but I know any good bus man will take profits and put a large sum back into the bus, be it upgrade machines to keep up with comp or tech and times or whatever. You catch my point....

In the end double or triple your original investment, invest in something you never could have before, and if it doubles or triples again your set, key word "if", and as we all know there are not many sure things in this world, and gold and silver is about the closest thing I have found to it so far, lol....
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07/21/2011 11:49 pm
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 Posted 07/22/2011  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list

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...as we all know there are not many sure things in this world

You're right on the money with that, Hawk. Only death and taxes are sure things in this world... although, the love of a good woman HAS to be in there as well.


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I am just waiting to see what happens come September when I believe we will see QE3.

I also am standing pat until mid-late Sept. Rest assured that when QE3 comes, it will not be called that by Uncle Ben. He knows that there is a stigma attached to that kind of a name, so he will come up with some other name for what is basically the same thing. This will be just like it was several years ago when no politician would mention the word "recession", so they made a joke of it and called it a "banana" instead. Everyone KNEW what they meant, though.

QE3 or whatever it is called has about an 80-20 chance to occur, IMO. If it does, then it will be bullish for the stock market and investments there should do well. It is also likely to be very good for PMs and they should do well too. Inflation will worsen in this scenario, so practically everything will rise in price, Uncle Ben's calculations and denials notwithstanding. This will not be a good time to hold a lot of cash, although holding some for our day to day needs will be OK. The bulk of our wealth should be in stocks, foreign bonds, and PMs. Energy, agriculture, and mining company shares should be especially good.

The time period that has me most concerned will be in 2014-15. It is likely that this is when we will finally find out the true nature and scope of the financial problems in Europe and the US and whether or not they can be solved.

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 Posted 07/22/2011  11:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
To get a better idea to answer the question: Take a look at recent REAL gold price history, with inflation and the declining value of the U.S. Dollar taken into account.

Certainly, you don't want to exchange gold for dollars that are worth less.
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 Posted 07/23/2011  01:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list
Uncle Ben needs to check the price of rice.
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 Posted 07/23/2011  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list

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Uncle Ben needs to check the price of rice.

Yes, and the prices for everything else that REAL people require for a decent life as well.
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 Posted 08/01/2011  04:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mmerlinn to your friends list

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Uncle Ben needs to check the price of rice.


He needs to check a lot of prices.

I was selling steel for $65 per ton in 2007. In the 80s and 90s prices fluctuated between $45 and $90 per ton. Last week I sold at $300 per ton. That is almost a 500% "increase" in "value" in 4 years. And, of course, those numbers are not reflected in the fictitious CPI.

Normally steel prices crash going into summer. This year they are holding steady. Normally they rise going into winter from their annual lows in July. July is over and we are still near record highs, so I am expecting maybe as much as $500 per ton steel this winter.

Historically, steel prices hit an annual high around Easter. The fall and winter prices in the 40 years I have been in the steel market have NEVER exceeded the annual highs. This year they WILL.

This will be the first summer in over 40 years that I won't be lowering buying prices in anticipation of lower selling prices. If anything, competition is forcing me to raise buying prices when usually the competitors disappear for 3 summer months.

So much for the value of Uncle Ben's prognosis.
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 Posted 10/11/2011  4:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list
What are current steel prices?
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