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A Question About The Weight Of A Sovereign

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 Posted 05/17/2011  3:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
All coins when struck have a tolerance range. I don't know what the tolerance range of the Sovereign was but the tolerance of the US half eagle of that period, which is the closest weight coin gold coin to the sovereign, had a tolerance of .032 grams. This means it could have weighed as low as 7.95 grams when it was struck ans still have been considered to be of legal weight. So if this coin has any wear at all you are talking having to account for .02 grams of weight loss. That is .3% loss in weight. If Peter Thomas is correct that means they wouldn't withdraw the coin until the weight dropped to 7.87 grams. I don't see a problem with your coin.
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 Posted 05/17/2011  5:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add throwbackid to your friends list
The sovereign is one of my favorite coins, and it is completely normal for the weight to be a little off.
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 Posted 05/17/2011  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spikey Norman to your friends list
Perfectly within acceptable bounds if worn, I have a QVYH half-sov that has been around the block more than a few times so to speak and that's a full 0.2g underweight but is genuine.

Norm
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Lebanon
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 Posted 05/17/2011  7:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add new_user to your friends list
I appreciate all your answers,i believe you guys are right,it is still within a reasonable margin.. Below is the picture of the coin I was talking about





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Lebanon
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 Posted 05/22/2011  7:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add new_user to your friends list
hey guys,the man who sold me this coin is offering to sell another sovereign,this time a "queen Victoria veiled head - 1900" ,and it also weighs around 7.92 ! I'm not an expert,I'm kinda new to sovereigns,but I think that the touch and feel of these couple of coins is somehow reassuring that they're authentic.However,can you tell by looking at the pics I posted above? I'm gonna upload more pics of the veiled head coin,and another king george coin that i'd love to read feedback about! thx a lot people!
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 Posted 05/22/2011  8:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add throwbackid to your friends list
If the price is right I would buy it. The first looks authentic it's been cleaned but still a very nice coin.
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Lebanon
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 Posted 05/22/2011  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add new_user to your friends list
talking about "price",i read somewhere that numismatics can cost a minimum of 15% dealer profit. I'm paying a 20% for king george coins,but I paid around 33% for the victoria coin! the same price is demanded for the veiled coin (475$ !),i know it's a bit too much,but Victoria coins are a bit hard to find in my country. Any thoughts?
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 Posted 05/23/2011  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add new_user to your friends list
Here's a King George that I purchased a while back.. I was checking it the other day,and I noticed that the bridle across the horse's neck looks very weak! the coin's touch seems genuine to me,here are a couple of pictures!
Man this whole genuine/fake thing really messes with one's mind! doesn't it?! makes me hate coins at times lool
In Victoria's pics,the initials on the reverse under the dragon seem worn off.
Why don't I invest my money in normal bars from banks? I guess I fell in love with this Coin World lol



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 Posted 05/23/2011  11:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list
quote: "... the bridle across the horse's neck looks very weak ..."

that's typical wear.
The first area to go is usually the straps on the greave on George's leg.

The obverse shows wear in the hair above K.George's temple. His beard is starting to show wear also.

"Why don't I invest my money in normal bars from banks?"
- I have read that in the First Gulf War, the U.S. Air Force issued its pilots with five KG5 sovs, as part of their emergency kit. Apparently, KG5 sovs are still good currency in that part of the world.
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 Posted 05/23/2011  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add new_user to your friends list
yes Peter,I'm aware of the wear,but it's not a deal breaker for me,what matters most to me is that it's genuine,I'm still new and obsessed with the fact that there are lots of fakes out there! lol.. what's your opinion on the Victoria coin up there?
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 Posted 05/23/2011  5:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list
both of the above look genuine to me.
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 Posted 05/23/2011  6:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add new_user to your friends list
thank you for your replies
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 Posted 04/09/2014  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add marcelo bentancor to your friends list
Im not an expert just beginning I dont like victorias sovereign I dont see the "tail" behind the helmet of Saint Jorges.That for me is a red flag
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 Posted 04/09/2014  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list

Quote:
I dont like victorias sovereign I dont see the "tail" behind the helmet of Saint Jorges.That for me is a red flag

There was no "Tail" behind the riders head on young head coins minted at Sydney and Melbourne between 1971-1887
After this date there was a design change to add the ribbon behind the riders head
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 Posted 04/09/2014  10:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add marcelo bentancor to your friends list
Sorry and thanks for the information!!
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