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1867 Shielded Nickel With Rays

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 Posted 06/27/2011  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list
Fingers are crossed for you ... looking forward to the NGC opinion.

Nice coin ... I agree with very well struck.

Enjoy the 'mini-Cud' on the reverse at appx 5am ... appears the significant die cracks came together and that portion of the die just plain gave up.

I have very little knowledge of this series ... just general readings that lead me to believe the US Mint was having a dickens of a time producing coins with their new Cu-NI alloy ... and your lovely coin with the beautiful die cracks and mini-cud is a nice example of that historical challenge.

David
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 Posted 06/28/2011  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Las_Vegas_Larry to your friends list
Maybe MS
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 Posted 06/28/2011  6:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add busthalf to your friends list
This is a nice coin. Good find. I think you want a number with the AU so I'm going to give it a try. Now remember this is a guess. If I get it right no big deal just send me the graded coin and we will call it even.
About Uncirculated (AU-50)
Obverse: Besides wear, the presence of some luster is required for this grade. Very light wear will show on tips of leaves and on cross and shield. Reverse: Light wear on number and trace of wear on stars. Stars may be weakly struck.
About Uncirculated (AU 55-58)
AU-55: More luster than on the AU-50, less wear. Wear may show as a light ‘shine' or color change (grayish) on leaves, cross and numeral 5, reverse. Due to weakness of strike parts of the cross, shield lines (especially horizontal lines) may be unevenly struck. Check for luster on these areas.
AU-58: Full luster, except for highest points. Wear may not be visible without a loupe. Check high points...cross, leaves, (obverse) and numeral 5, (reverse) for color change, luster, and circulation/rub indicators. Open fields should not show circulation. Only highest point wear allowed for this grade.
OK well thats what I looked at.My final assesment(drum roll lease) AU-55
No all kiding aside like I said this is a nice coin and a good find. It has it all good strike and die crack. The only thing I found wrong with this coin was that it was not mine.
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 Posted 06/28/2011  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Freedom to your friends list
Thank you for your in-depth analysis. Your comments pretty much mimicked what my dealer said. He is expecting AU-55 to AU-58. Depending on the grader at NGC, it might make MS-60.

Of course NGC is located in Sarasota and one of the graders there is part of our local coin club. Not that I would expect it to make an impact on the grade. They studied the coin under a loop, computerized microscope and typical head gear. The owner. who I deal with, said that he has never seen this type of coin in this condition. Strong strike, Cud, stars are separate from the bars, uncommon for this year.

He is hoping for AU-58, me, I would be happy with AU-55, smiling at AU-58 and epileptic at MS60....

Thanks for your kind words and I will post a pic of the slab when I get it back.
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 Posted 07/04/2011  2:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Freedom to your friends list
Still waiting. Haven't forgot because of age....
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 Posted 08/08/2011  1:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Freedom to your friends list
Coin Shop just called, the coin is back and the guy wouldn't tell me the grade over the phone, chuckling at the
same time.

Then I got the idea that he had graded it at AU-58 and the way he was chuckling and wouldn't tell me, it might have hit an MS Grade!!

I will know in about 1 1/2 hours.....

I feel like a kid in a candy shop.
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 Posted 08/10/2011  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yankee1227 to your friends list
Good Luck!
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 Posted 08/10/2011  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add specksynder to your friends list
you're killin' us, man! what happened!?
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 Posted 08/12/2011  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list
Please let us know
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08/12/2011 10:23 pm
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 Posted 08/22/2011  1:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Freedom to your friends list
AU Details
Improperly Cleaned. It is being sent off to PCGS at the expense of the coin shop. It is not a cleaned coin, NGC is grading harshly right now and nobody knows why.
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 Posted 08/22/2011  3:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list

Quote:
chuckling at the same time...



Quote:
AU Details
Improperly Cleaned.




"Improperly cleaned" is funny?
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 Posted 08/22/2011  9:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuffaloBonehead to your friends list
It sounds like you have a stand up coin dealer.
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 Posted 08/23/2011  06:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Freedom to your friends list
I believe I do, he said it should have graded high AU to MS.
He is footing the bill for PCGS, wait time........Almost two months...
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 Posted 08/23/2011  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yankee1227 to your friends list
Wait time is wait time, all you can do is be patient.
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 Posted 08/26/2011  04:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Darth Anarchus to your friends list
wow, what a coin guy... Awesome coin, great details... great thread
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