Need Help In Determining If This Is Real Julius Caesar Coin!

I like this AtEase guy, gives what he gets,

It's obvious that I am speaking to a learned group of individuals; "inverse, diverse, reverse and obverse". I appreciate that. Reminds me of a time as a child in a room of fifty or so individuals, all were standing around, one person pointed at a window, all but one, including this young child knew what he was point at. The one that didn't understand, he was a window expert and wasn't sure if the individual pointing meant the glass, the frame, the insulation or something else.

Sometimes ya have to call heads "heads" and Tails "tails! It amazes me how the intimidation to a new old or young individual coming into something with lots of enthusiasm but little knowledge can be turned off so easy and quickly his or her fire of enthusisiam smothered by "expertise". Much like Christ correcting the Paraphrase's and Sagateese's (spell) for being all so Word knowledgeable, but not have any applicable knowledge. Give me the innocence of a child's interest any day over an old fuddy-duddy expert. But don't get me wrong, knowledge is power! And I do wish to avail myself of all the power here regarding this crazy coin, and this interesting hobby of touching history first-hand. So bring it on and I will make every attempt to be correct as best this elderly mind can. It only means I have to throw away some other once useful words to make a place for these new ones.

So; TAM, Jangofett, bobbyhelmet, 10xloupe (and I have one also), SOP, NOD2003 and , yes even the wobbly table adviser;pls, do any of you have a clearer picture of my coin. Cause I really, really, really do want to know if Caesar had anything to do with it?

I forgot the picture. Here it is.

Thanks again.

SAP, Thank you very much for your fantastic and detailed examination of this coin. Now not sure if I want to send it back and get my money back or keep it for its lesson in life that one is never to old to learn! Not everyone is sincere or honest or knowledgeable about what their selling. Ironically it may have been someone that reads this site, saw it and sent me a "opportunity" to send in a great review of my purchase through them, the seller. Sometimes one wants to believe that it was an honest mistake but after receiving it and looking it over personally, even with my little knowledge, it displayed itself and NOT being what it was sold as. Thank you again. I'm not upset from buying on E-bay, just a little more "grown-up" in my purchase. I have many more interesting Biblical coins I know to be "truly" from the time and as they are supposed to be and what they were claimed to be and will continue to look for something in my price range as that which I paid on this ......$77.77 (referred to as God good number). God did you see that one coming?

Thanks, Ralph

And keep us updated on your progress and methodology, AtEase. If you can track down a definite ID, I for one will send up a small cheer to commemorate the fact that it is, indeed, of more value than a table leg prop.

Since it is far from my desire to blasphemy anyone or belittle anyone's expertise. Nor do I wish to flame or begin a argument between those better qualified on the subject than myself,I will respectfully pass along the sellers comments to my email regarding my purchase.

Quote: "Today I was able to talk to a colleague here who is quite an expert in Ancient Roman coins. He explained a couple of things to me that I found very enlightening, which I will pass on.
First, he told me that the silver denarii minted under the Republic were made of 95% silver, but that by the time of Julius Caesar, the silver content had dropped to around 50% silver. He explained that because of this, well-worn coins of this type often have a brass-like appearance. So, that was certainly my error in thinking that the coin was a bronze.
Second, he noted that virtually all ancient coins have more than one variety, either because each mint produced their own dies, and/or there was no uniform die production that would ensure coins struck from different dies would be exactly the same.
Now that I have this information, and how much the coin is potentially worth, I would gladly take it back and either exchange it for something else or refund your money.
As you are quickly finding out, attributing these coins is not always simple. I am considered a fairly well-skilled "seer" when it comes to making a positive ID, and I do get it wrong sometimes. But I also know people with 40 year's experience who make incorrect IDs as well. However, if the mistakes are minor, or to the buyer's advantage, then....
I'll leave this in your hands - " end quote.

I'm back to square one, however I am going to reweigh the coin. It does looked (probably the wrong wording) "clipped", which I seemed to have heard was one way of bringing to proper weight or perhaps giving (arg, your gonna wanna beat me here); change. My scale is an old ATCO balance and I might have picked-up a different weight.

It appears that the seller is insulted by my questioning, even though I didn't use any reference directly or indirectly to that person, he or she.
I thought I had a right to search out and learn from others in this field or hobby. Apparently that person didn't feel so. Even though I stated everywhere my intent was to learn about the coin and not begin a contest of which I have NO qualifications in and so stated. However the person responded to my sending them this site and this thread and perhaps read what I was reading and offer correction where correction might be due. The person didn't like it and their response is below. I have no intention of sending the coin back, only to discover its history.

The reference material and comments are;

"ON THE EXISTENCE OF CHRONOLOGICAL VARIATIONS IN THE COMPOSITION OF ROMAN BRASS1 EARLE R. CALEY
Department of Chemistry, The Ohio State University, Columbus 10
In spite of some literary allusions to the contrary, the experimental evidence
indicates that the copper-zinc alloy which we call brass was first produced intentionally
by the Romans. This alloy was first used by them only for coins,
and there are strong indications that its manufacture was practiced by the Roman
mints as a monopoly of the state during most or all of the period when brass was
struck. The earliest known Roman brass coins were issued under Julius Caesar
about 45 B. C, but the abundant issue of such coins did not begin until about
23 B. C. under Augustus. Vast numbers of these coins were issued under various
emperors between this date and 200 A. D., the approximate time of the end of
the ancient coinage of this alloy.

You can read the entire report at
https://kb.osu.edu/dspace/bitstream...5?sequence=1

Please be sure to post this to the forum. See how they respond. They are a great group of guys, but, like me and everyone else, they are sometimes wrong!"

end of portion of message I will post.

I apologize to anyone here I might have insulted if any of my material was received as insulting.It still is as it was; only to discover its real coinage. I have zero intention in sending it back. I do want to determine its history and its beginning. I thank all of you for your comments, assistance, humor and corrections. As I said from the beginning, this is NOT nor was it intended to belittle anyone (including) the seller. Only to get to what this coin really is.

I certainly can say that this has been a very informative and entertaining thread for a coin that initially looked like something from the posterior of some animal.

I still take umbrage at the 08 S-v.d.b., though, ;).