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Walker Headed The Wrong Way?

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 Posted 08/05/2011  09:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weerdsteev to your friends list
On the dies she'd be facing the right way...right? Maybe whoever engraved the die was dyslectic...or just forgot that everything would be backwards when the coin was stamped out.
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 Posted 08/05/2011  10:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list
Does this (Liberty's facing direction) have anything to do with the arrows in the eagles talon being on the right, meaning that we are at war?

Speaking of which; has anyone else noted that the eagle on the twenty has the arrows in the right talon?
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 Posted 08/05/2011  10:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Whytlash to your friends list
It's amazing that none of you get it.

Lady Liberty is facing north and turned toward the east. The sun is rising to her right hand.

When you stand facing north, the sun will rise on your right-hand side; the east.

You are trying to see this from YOUR perspective, not hers. If you were to stand in front of her and view her (exactly as you do on this coin!) you would be facing south. That would put the rising sun on YOUR left side just as it is depicted.

I doubt the engravers and all involved were unaware of reverse images, and reverse reverse imasges.

The orientation of the coin is correct.

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 Posted 08/05/2011  10:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JackB to your friends list
Isn't that like saying when you see a photo with the ocean on the left, and land on the right, that it must be the west coast?
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 Posted 08/05/2011  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yankee1227 to your friends list
I concure.
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 Posted 08/05/2011  10:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list
Clear and precise logic Whytlash!
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 Posted 08/05/2011  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
I've been pointing out that "error" for years. Standard convention is when you are looking at a map or "flat" image, up is north, down south, the right is the east, and left is west. Under standard convention Liberty is walking to the left or west.


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Does this (Liberty's facing direction) have anything to do with the arrows in the eagles talon being on the right, meaning that we are at war?

In Heraldry left and right are referenced to the images own left or right. The shield, person or animal is facing the viewer so it's right is the viewers left etc. Now in Heraldry the right hand side is considered to be the "preferred side" so olive branches in the EAGLES right claw would show a preference for peace. The arrows of war should be held in the less favored left talon. (Contrary to some popular beief the direction the eagles head is turned does not matter.) This is the way all of the US coins are made EXCEPT for the early Heraldic eagle silver and gold coins of 1795 - 1807, the Twenty Cent Piece, and the Trade dollar. These coins all Heraldically indicate a preference on the part of the United States for War. Oops. bad enough on the early coins, but on a coin specifically intended for trade?
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 Posted 08/05/2011  1:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list
Condender101, how about the revitalization on the new $20?

Yes, I was referring to the object depicted on the coin/currency's right (as for the arrows), not the viewers.
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 Posted 08/05/2011  5:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add murrellington to your friends list
so she could be facing either way and it would be correct. because it depends if we are facing her in the north or south. can't believe we didn't think of that.
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 Posted 08/05/2011  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list
From now on, when I look at a Walker, I'll hold her up to a mirror ....
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 Posted 08/06/2011  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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Clear and precise logic Whytlash!


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I've been pointing out that "error" for years. Standard convention is when you are looking at a map or "flat" image, up is north, down south, the right is the east, and left is west. Under standard convention Liberty is walking to the left or west.

I've been in Engineering for over 50 years now and every place, company, organization I've been with has the North Arrow to the right on all documents, drawings, etc.
I have to go along with whytlash as to the coin is correct as is. East is on her right side or left side. MAYBE.
Isn't it possible that whoever posed for that was just standing facing the artist's left? And the Sun is really the Moon? Where is it stated that the object near her feet is a Sun? Could represent the starting of street lighting in the Artist's area. Might just be the only place the artists had for a lamp too.
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 Posted 08/07/2011  12:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yokozuna to your friends list
Okay, I fixed it. Now she's going east and waving for us to follow her.

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 Posted 08/07/2011  12:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add perfessor to your friends list
This reverse image is great. It would make an interesting fantasy coin. I'll bet that most people would not even realize that liberty is facing the opposite direction. See, it is all a matter of perspective. There is no right or wrong direction.
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 Posted 08/07/2011  09:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismaniac to your friends list
LOL Great job. I would follow her anywhere. I am still not certain I agree with the posters who say we are looking at her from the wrong perspective. I have never looked at a map upside down and can't picture AW looking at it from Canada and have Lady Libert facing him. Of course, I do not have a good answer either.
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 Posted 08/07/2011  11:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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Okay, I fixed it. Now she's going east and waving for us to follow her.


Yes it does appear now that she is waving to use to follow. HOWEVER, if you look closer it also appears she is closing that hand and only the index finger is left not closed YET. Once that is closed, what she is saying may be far from follow me. Now look closer at her left hand and also note the finger arragement.
So now with this redition she's walking away from the Sun, waving at someone to follow, maybe, but how can they follow if she is walking towards them?
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