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1987 S Non-Proof Jefferson Nickel

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 Posted 08/12/2011  6:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list
to the CCF.

the coin is a proof strike ... has to be ... but certainly possible to be an impaired proof that has seen circulation.

I've personally found 4 proof Jefferson in bank rolls ... it happens.

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 Posted 08/12/2011  6:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list


A proof coin will wear down like any other coin. If it circulates long enough, it will look circulated. However, as pointed out above, there are ways to tell if it was struck as a proof unless it is extremely worn.
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 Posted 08/13/2011  05:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add michaelsaur to your friends list
Thanks all I have an image but the file is too large (863kb) to upload, is there a way to crop an image taken with a phone and emailed? I'll post a pic later but if a proof surface can be worn off I'm sure that's what I have. The coin is circulated for sure but it does still have clear features. What is the definitive way to confirm its proof origin?
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 Posted 08/13/2011  05:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add murrellington to your friends list
if you have a photobucket, just upload it to your account. then post the image tag here.
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 Posted 08/13/2011  08:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list

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What is the definitive way to confirm its proof origin?


The last circulation-strike San Francisco mint Jefferson was coined in 1970. For me ... the 'S' MM on your coin is the definitive test.

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 Posted 08/13/2011  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add michaelsaur to your friends list
Thanks murrellington, here's the link

1987-S-Non-Proof-Jefferson-Nickel

I put the 1987 S next to a couple proof coins, I can see them clearly on my computer, they are less clear on the link pic
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I am no expert on nickels but to me the coin on the left in the image just looks buffed and not a proof at all. The 1961 coin lacks a great degree of small details that should be there in a proof quality coin. Again I am no expert but to me the 1987 is the proof and the 1961 isn't
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 Posted 08/13/2011  2:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add murrellington to your friends list
the coin he is referring to is the 1987, not the 1961. Anyways, the 1987 s does look strange. It doesn't look proof at all. But it could just be that the mirror-like surfaces that a proof has have been worn off from circulation. Waiting for other responses as well, for I am no expert.
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 Posted 08/13/2011  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add unholyroller to your friends list
I understand he is asking about the 87s, but he stated the 61 is a proof which I think is wrong and that might be why his comparison is flawed. The 87s is just the victim of circulation wear which makes it look "common" whereas the 61 is "common" but just buffed up to look shiny...... again I am no expert, far from it in fact, just giving my Two Cents...or in this case...two nickels
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 Posted 08/13/2011  2:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list
The 61 looks like it could be a circulated proof as well. Regardless, the simple fact is the 87 IS a proof, period. It has the S mint mark, its a proof. Its simply been in circulation a long time.
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Thanks for all the comments. The 1961 is a proof and if you were holding it you'd be 100% sure - sorry for the poor quality of the picture. The 1987 looks like an ordinary nickel - no residual signs that it once looked like the 1961. I'll be glad to email the picture if anyone wants it up close - on my computer the pic enlarges and shows great detail, but that's all lost from the posting. I thank all, I'm pretty confident that what I have is exactly what responders have suggested, a once proof 1987 that now shows no signs of its past.
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Thanks all I have an image but the file is too large (863kb) to upload, is there a way to crop an image taken with a phone and emailed?
You can use the Free Image Optimizer to make it fit here. (Uploading Photos)

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Thanks murrellington, here's the link
I have edited your post to embed the image.
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 Posted 08/15/2011  4:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add upstate to your friends list
Well your right it certianly doesn't have the mirror surfaced fields one would expect from a proof coin.
But it is a proof coin none the less. Nice conservation piece.
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 Posted 08/15/2011  9:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add michaelsaur to your friends list
Thanks jbuck for the info and the help
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