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Originally posted by Guido
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Originally posted by Bryan1315
thats why I ordered all of mine in 2 sets per order, I paid a little more for shipping but I can send 2 sets at a time to the TPG to be graded with the 20th anniversary labels and not have to send all of the sets at once
But if you can only afford two sets, then you would want to order them individually so you could keep one opened (if you wanted to) and ship the other off to be graded. If you have two in one box, then you HAVE to send them both to get either one (or in this case both) graded.
well that wasn't a problem at the time of order and I ordered 20 sets, 10 for my address and 10 at my aunts which is next door |
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Here's a thought. How far down the road do you think they will drop their restrictions on only grading unopened boxes from the mint to get the labels? Or how long before another of the TPG's starts offering the same service for any of the sets unopened or opened?
I don't think that will happen since you can purchase two of the coins separately. There is no way of knowing, 100%, that those coins came from the three coin set unless the TPG gets them unopened. If another company decides to do what you suggest, I would bet it would be a lower on the rung company, but I would be surprised (but I guess I should never be surprised what some of these greedy companies will do to make a buck off unsuspecting collectors). I saw a coin seller on ebay selling a three coin gold anniversary set with only the gold reverse proof with the blue 20th anniversary label. The other two coins had regular NGC labels. And 18 people had bid it up to over $6,000! That's what a full three set blue label 70 set is going for! Let the buyer beware! |
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Originally posted by Guido
I saw a coin seller on ebay selling a three coin gold anniversary set with only the gold reverse proof with the blue 20th anniversary label. The other two coins had regular NGC labels. And 18 people had bid it up to over $6,000! That's what a full three set blue label 70 set is going for! Let the buyer beware!
Yeah, I saw it too, here it is http://cgi.ebay.com/2006-W-Gold-Eag...70_W0QQitemZ140060641189QQihZ004QQcategoryZ39483QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Good example of why you need to be a informed buyer. My question is this: Could the seller just show the consecutive "serial numbers" to show they were all graded at the same time with the "reverse proof to confirm 20th anniversary set with out the pedigree?" Edited by kg2blade
12/12/2006 09:58 am
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Originally posted by kg2blade
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Originally posted by Guido
I saw a coin seller on ebay selling a three coin gold anniversary set with only the gold reverse proof with the blue 20th anniversary label. The other two coins had regular NGC labels. And 18 people had bid it up to over $6,000! That's what a full three set blue label 70 set is going for! Let the buyer beware!
Yeah, I saw it too, here it is
http://cgi.ebay.com/2006-W-Gold-Eag...70_W0QQitemZ140060641189QQihZ004QQcategoryZ39483QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Good example of why you need to be a informed buyer. My question is this:
Could the seller just show the consecutive "serial numbers" to show they were all graded at the same time with the "reverse proof to confirm 20th anniversary set with out the pedigree?"
No, because the TPG has no way of knowing if those two coins actually came as a part of the set or were purchased separately and then included. Without them actually opening the box, they will not give those other two coins the special labels. |
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Not trying to be smart here, but what does it matter if the Proof and the UNC came with the set? From what I understand, they all were hit by the same dies....... If I wanted a "70" set, I would be fine with either, and the reverse proof would always have the black label. Plus, do not think that the all black label sets came in the same box. They put sets together from different boxes. So, whats the big deal... I personally know of one set that was opened, then retaped with security tape, sent and graded...Now, do you really KNOW those TPG sets are original? NO.... I also think in the distant future, you will see the TPG's grade 20th sets that were opened.. MM  |
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My dilemna is this: So the mint was supposed to ship these things on 12/08. Now they are delayed and might--just might--ship them in the same box with gold sets and coins!! How do I submit if that happens? Can I ask the TPG to only grade the silver? Would any of them "work with you" in that way? |
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Originally posted by morganman
Not trying to be smart here, but what does it matter if the Proof and the UNC came with the set? From what I understand, they all were hit by the same dies.......
If I wanted a "70" set, I would be fine with either, and the reverse proof would always have the black label.
Plus, do not think that the all black label sets came in the same box. They put sets together from different boxes. So, whats the big deal...
I personally know of one set that was opened, then retaped with security tape, sent and graded...Now, do you really KNOW those TPG sets are original? NO....
I also think in the distant future, you will see the TPG's grade 20th sets that were opened..
MM
Well, the peons that we are, we don't have any control over what the TPG's do. They are supposed to act fairly with everyone, but that doesn't always appear to be so. I guess greed and money are the main factors in these things sometimes. If they did, in fact grade opened sets, that sucks big time. But, I think the majority of them were not opened. If they were, you would have heard more about it, I think. I really don't think PCGS or NGC with change their way of grading the 20th anniversary sets. Other TPG's might be more liberal, but I just can't see these two doing this. I think PCGS's creditability is suffering (at least to me) since all I see on ebay are First Strike graded 20th anniversary sets. It makes me sick to see this and I don't want to buy any slabbed coins from them just because of this, even if they "supposedly" have a better reputation the NGC. At least NGC isn't putting the First Strike on their graded sets (at least any I've seen). |
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My 2 sets came in today DHL, I had picked regular shipping to, so the mint hooked it up with DHL for $4.95. Boy are they some beautiful coins..
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I was a little concerned as I ordered the anniversary set together with a 2006-W, and that seemed to be holding the order up. Just checked and the mint shipped my 3 piece set and should arive today or tomorrow. So, I guess there is hope for those of us who ordered late!
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Originally posted by RangerXLT8
My 2 sets came in today DHL, I had picked regular shipping to, so the mint hooked it up with DHL for $4.95. Boy are they some beautiful coins..
My one set arrived yesterday, too  And you are right - they are beautiful. I opened mine because I couldn't care less if they "might be 70s". They're just for my collection. |
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Jeff,
To answer your original question: Is there a difference between buying each coin individually and buying them altogether as a set?
The only difference is that if you buy the set, it will cost you less money.
At this point, all three coins are available individually both raw and graded. All of the sets are sold out so people are quickly breaking them up to make some quick money. If you buy a raw set, they go for about 250 now where a 69graded set runs about 280. You decide how you want to collect them.
Enjoy the silver eagle madness.
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Well, the fairness of it all goes back to the U.S. Mint. So, if I placed three separate orders that wound up being 11 sets--and, they only shipped 10--how is one dealer on ebay doing it? Multiple (many) "unopened boxes of 10 sets." What's the deal? |
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Originally posted by seth
Well, the fairness of it all goes back to the U.S. Mint. So, if I placed three separate orders that wound up being 11 sets--and, they only shipped 10--how is one dealer on ebay doing it?
Multiple (many) "unopened boxes of 10 sets." What's the deal?
His son, wife daughter, brother, uncle could all have ordered sets on his behalf. |
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Thats how I did it.
I got my 10, my sisters 10, my moms 10, my brothers 10, my aunts 10, my great aunts 10, neighbors 10, my bosses 10, my carpool drivers 10 and my secretaries 10.
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