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 Posted 09/14/2011  8:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Penny4Me to your friends list
now you can sell it on ebay as Gem BU, like many bad sellers do
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 Posted 09/14/2011  11:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
If you must clean silver, use an acid thiourea dip and not baking soda. If properly done, it's nearly impossible to tell.

Baking soda left hairline scratches all over the coin....personally, I prefer the toned look over this.
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 Posted 09/15/2011  12:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list

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My old blue book suggested that if you must clean a silver coin, use a paste of baking soda and water.

Worst...suggestion...ever Baking soda is highly abrasive to soft silver.
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 Posted 09/15/2011  06:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Here is an article that may be useful http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis...ticleId=4580
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 Posted 09/15/2011  08:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list
Yeah, good thing you did it with a melt value coin.
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 Posted 09/15/2011  10:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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Good improvement.

I see no problem trying to improve messed up coins



I too have done that many times with Baking Soda and Distilled water. Should use Distilled water since some waters contain almost anything. I too have found coins at a flea market that appeared to have been in a tar pit so almost anything done to it could do little damage.
On a coin that is almost gone, as this one was, makes little difference if cleaned or not. You couldn't sell it the way it was except for melting and now, as already noted, could put on ebay and make some profit.
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 Posted 09/15/2011  10:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
I simply cannot believe the words of encouragement I'm reading in this thread. Yeah, I get it - unimportant coin, melt value, why not?

What kind of shape was that Roosevelt in, under the patina? AU? MS66? At what point do we say, "OK, fine, this one isn't worth preserving for a hundred years in the future?"

More 1916 Lincoln Cents were produced than 1954-P Roosevelts. Today, less than a hundred years later, it's pretty easy to find a 1916 Lincoln that's worth $400. An MS63 Red is worth $50.

I'm not one of those who advocates the "hands off under any circumstances" school of thought. The next coin I clean or otherwise alter won't be the first. But the response should fit the situation, and an abrasive never fits the situation. If you're gonna act on a coin, pretend that there will still be coin collectors when you're gone, and consider your responsibility to them.

Chances are this wasn't a Mint State coin, and chances are they'll still be plentiful in 2054. Unless the current run-up on gold & silver continues for long enough to make coins like this "common date" silver become a rarity simply because nobody worried about how many would be left when they were done melting them....

An appropriate response for this coin would be a diluted thiourea solution as BadThad suggested. Yeah, it might have killed it anyways, but at least you'd have found out what was actually under the patina, rather than dictating what was going to be under the patina as the OP did when he ground the surface off of it.

Sheesh.
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 Posted 09/15/2011  1:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IowaHawkeye to your friends list
Folks, thanks for all the comments.

As I work my way toward the 50 post level so I can buy here on the site, I should have known better to stay away from controversial topics....

After looking at the coin in my album, it looks about as out of place as it did before cleaning. Before cleaning, it looked ugly next to the naturally toned coins. Now, it looks out of place as it is too shiny compared to the naturally toned coins.

I'll probably just sell the ugly ones as they are and replace them with better specimens.

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 Posted 09/15/2011  3:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add desertgem to your friends list

I am in the boat with Superdave and Thad. If you are going to do it anyway, use dilute dip and patience. Full strength only takes a few seconds, diluted much longer, but this time allows evaluation, as it is an irreversible reaction. I don't want to involve a different reaction by adding sodium bicarbonate to an acid still on the coin surface as mentioned in the article, I prefer an extended cold water rinse and then an acetone rinse following to remove all water on the surface of the coin, and air dry. Many problems will never be "improved" by dipping, but many possible coins are damaged by over treating.

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 Posted 09/15/2011  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Saruma to your friends list
Iowa,

What's important is if YOU like the looks of that dime. I've cleaned up silver Rosies and Mercs that I've found while metal detecting that look similar to your coin. I wouldn't do it to a valuable coin, but for one that is only worth melt what the heck. It is YOUR coin do what makes you happy. Sure, maybe try some less abrasive methods in the future first, but if they don't work (or you don't want to bother with them) go right ahead and use baking soda.
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 Posted 09/15/2011  3:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add murrellington to your friends list
I don't mind when coins look like your before picture. It shows that it was actually used. It has history, and it really didn't look all that bad. People have different tastes but personally the after picture looks horrible to me. But whatever floats your boat.
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 Posted 09/15/2011  3:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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I'll probably just sell the ugly ones as they are and replace them with better specimens.
The best option. In my opinion, the best way to improve a coin is to buy a better one.

(Of course, there are exceptions to this rule. BadThad and SuperDave have enough experience to know what those exceptions are; I do not).
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 Posted 11/14/2011  05:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list
Does the coin look better? Prolly.

Does it look more natural? Nope.

What grit sandpaper should I use in my new car's finish? Baking soda to a coin's surface is very similar.
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 Posted 11/14/2011  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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After looking at the coin in my album, it looks about as out of place as it did before cleaning. Before cleaning, it looked ugly next to the naturally toned coins. Now, it looks out of place as it is too shiny compared to the naturally toned coins.

Prior to getting rid of that or others similar, try my system of putting on a piece of raw wood, on a kitchen window sill. Preferably facing South. Of course the results are pending many things. Such as an open window, humidity in the air, how often food is cooked, what type of food is cooking, etc. I've found many such coins end up toning down exceptionally. Takes a while but it does USUALLY, not always, works.
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