1871 5 Pesetas Counterstruck | Azores Counterfeit?

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nattwell New Member United Kingdom 42 Posts	Posted 02/05/2010 06:53 am Can anyone help with the counterstrike on this coin please, I know it;s a Spanish 5 pestas but have no idea on the mark and value. Thanks Edited by Staff to remove YELLING Identified - moved to World Coin forum - Sap Report this Post to the Staff

DCH Pillar of the Community United States 645 Posts	Posted 02/05/2010 8:06 pm The Crowned GP countermark is from the Azores, but this coin looks like a cast counterfeit to me. Report this Post to the Staff
svslav Pillar of the Community United States 2605 Posts	Posted 02/05/2010 9:30 pm Indeed G.P. stands for "Governo Portugues", and they used this type of countermark in Azores. But the shape of the crown on the pictures in Krause seems different to me. As I haven't seen any other Portuguese colony with this type CM I would too question the authenticity of this coin. Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16827 Posts	Posted 02/08/2010 07:51 am I have seen cast fake Spanish 5 peseta coins very similar to this one, but without the countermark. Sorry, nattwell, but I'm pretty certain I can see a seam around the obverse of this one. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
Archraz Pillar of the Community United States 3499 Posts	Posted 02/08/2010 2:06 pm nattwell- I'm sorry to say that Spanish 5 peseta coins have been heavily counterfeited despite the fact that there is not too much demand outside of Spain. Every time I go to a show in Madrid or Barcelona it is as if I am trying to find the few real ones floating on top of a sea of counterfeits. Seriously, I remember being at a show in Barcelona where there were some dealers who had books full of coins for sale, but not a single one was authentic. Report this Post to the Staff
narselio New Member Portugal 3 Posts	Posted 02/08/2010 9:58 pm Hi. Sorry, but that's a common counterfeit of the Portuguese c/m GP. The coin is a cast one, with far less weight than an original duro and is not countermark, as the stamp relief is printed at the same time as the coin is minted (you can see that there isn't any smash in the opposite side / obverse as it was expected on a c/m coin). On the other way, no genuine GP c/m is known stamped on an Amadeo I duro. A genuine GP c/w will look like to this one c/m on a Metropolitan Portugal cruzado novo or 480 reis. Report this Post to the Staff
coffeyce Valued Member Hong Kong 54 Posts	Posted 06/25/2010 11:32 am Here is one I have on a 1733 Spainish Coin. chris http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/...e/1733-2.jpg http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/...e/1733-1.jpg Report this Post to the Staff
fireandice556 Valued Member Philippines 80 Posts	Posted 06/27/2010 02:39 am @Archraz - Can you please enlighten us with these 5-Ptas counterfeits? Were they able to achieve a high level of similarity with the real coins? Quote: I'm sorry to say that Spanish 5 peseta coins have been heavily counterfeited despite the fact that there is not too much demand outside of Spain. Every time I go to a show in Madrid or Barcelona it is as if I am trying to find the few real ones floating on top of a sea of counterfeits. Seriously, I remember being at a show in Barcelona where there were some dealers who had books full of coins for sale, but not a single one was authentic. Report this Post to the Staff
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