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Looking For Info On Chinese Sycee

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 Posted 03/16/2012  4:47 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add gbreeze to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have two Silver Chinese Sycee (one large and one small) I am trying to get more information on, they have been in the same family for 100 years.. If you can help me with the history, rarity, and maybe a connection to a professional dealer I would greatly appreciate it. More images are located here: https://imgur.com/a/CdJUi

Thank you very much for your help.

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 Posted 03/16/2012  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Apollo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry I can't help^. Just wanted to say those pieces are very interesting, I like the silver hallmarks inside of them.
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Here's an excellent site on this subject:

http://sycee-on-line.com/Categories.htm

Should help you out...
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On the large one, one of it's stamps reads "Shang Hai" (right) and another "5" (left). The center stamp doesn't make much sense to me, and the stamps on the small one are illegible.

Based on the font and the fact that the large one has Shanghai stamped on it, i'd put the sycee at late 1800s at the earliest. Could be as new as early to mid 1900s.

Please don't pawn it off! I would hate to see something with so much history be melted down, and I can't that see your average dealer would be knowledgeable or interested enough in sycees to do more than that. PM me if you are looking to exchange it for paper money.
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 Posted 03/17/2012  12:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tokenmast to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting gbreeze and a good sign that the edge bends.
not breaks.
D that is my favorite Sycee link also

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 Posted 03/17/2012  01:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amaths to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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On the large one, one of it's stamps reads "Shang Hai" (right) and another "5" (left). The center stamp doesn't make much sense to me


The center stamp Zeng Ji could be the refinery. Zeng is the name and Ji means firm or something. Found a similar one with the number "7":
http://artist.socang.com/ArtistProduct/967721.html
The web says it weighs 1828.3 gram and is from early 1900. The double diamond symbol is a kind of authentication from a third party.

And here is a "3":
http://bbs.sssc.cn/viewthread.php?tid=743793

I can only recognize one character from the small one.
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 Posted 03/20/2012  2:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gbreeze to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the information it is much appreciated. The one posted here: http://bbs.sssc.cn/viewthread.php?tid=743793 is almost the same as the large one we have.. I have not seen one so similar. The weight is the same also.
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 Posted 03/20/2012  3:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vinnycoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
very cool pieces!
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I have the proper weights on them..

The weight on the large sycee is 1833.5 grams, the small one is 377.5 grams.
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HELLO per the China Silver (not hallmarks )they are words in Chinese (and NOT mandarin Chines/ I know what they say (but do not know if want translated (or that what rules are per the Platform) It is a very POETIC meaning as like the PAMP true happiness bars/ I have studied China writing for 8 years now and this in a dialect that is from NORTH (per beyond the wall/ as that was dividing POINT. let me know if want Know what means (yes 1 is per a hallmark yet NOT) as if want good book on China SYCEE $ there is a book dedicated to IT yet covers general (some may be very specific per as the message IN this 1 the other is just
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 Posted 07/12/2013  2:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It appears as though the metal was overheated to a boil.
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 Posted 07/12/2013  2:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VintageRacer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These were used as currency, buy why the weird shape?
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