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Classic Commemoratives "Did You Know?" #18

 
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 Posted 07/18/2012  2:13 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Though not officially acknowledged by the US Mint as a design reference, the obverse of Peter Krider's 1881 Yorktown Surrender Centennial medal is considered by many students of the US commemorative series to have had a very direct influence on Charles Barber's design for the obverse of the 1900 Lafayette silver dollar. Both pieces feature conjoined portraits of Washington and Lafayette, with Washington in the foreground.

I've looked for a reasonable example of the Yorktown medal for a number of years while attending coin shows or reviewing catalogs of upcoming medal auctions. Several that I've encountered struck me as being aggressively over-priced and so did not make it into my collection.

Recently, however, I participated in a mail bid auction from a dealer specializing in tokens and medals and wound up winning the medal shown below for a very reasonable price; from the price I paid, it appears to me that the bidding on the medal was limited.

The medal shown is a white metal example, the medal is also available in copper, bronze and lead; white metal examples appear to be the least scarce based on my own experiences. The piece is just over 50mm in diameter and is 5mm at the rim; you can see in the images below (especially the obverse) that the medal is struck in fairly high-relief.

The reverse of the medal depicts British Lieutenant General Lord Cornwallis' surrender to General George Washington (on horseback).

I've included an image of the obverse of the 1900 Lafayette dollar below for comparison with the medal. I'll leave it to you to decide how much Barber "borrowed" from Krider!

Enjoy!


1881 Yorktown Surrender Medal -- Obverse




1881 Yorktown Surrender Medal -- Reverse




1900 Lafayette Silver Dollar - Obverse



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 Posted 07/18/2012  3:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Merc Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I'll leave it to you to decide how much Barber "borrowed" from Krider!


I am pretty sure I would have received a failing grade for submitting such work when I was in school. Is there a place on the coin for a footnote crediting the original source?

As always, thanks for the great lesson commems
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 Posted 07/18/2012  4:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bpoc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
History lesson # 18. Love it commems!
Gorgeous coin.
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 Posted 07/18/2012  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kookoox10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What are various prices you have found for the Yorktown medal? I can imagine it's several times more than the Lafayette.
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 Posted 07/18/2012  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joseph_curwen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Plagiarism at its finest. I have read a bit about the Lafayette Dollar, but have never seen any mention of the Yorktown medal. Well done and thanks for sharing.


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Geepers ... another very well researched and presented story that shares some important insights behind the USA commemorative series.

Congratulations to you for acquiring the 1881 Yorktown medal that you obviously searched a while for.

I say that Mr. Barber borrowed quite a bit indeed.

Thank You commems for the continued sharing and valued education.

When are you going to publish the book ... I will be customer #1.

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 Posted 07/19/2012  11:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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What are various prices you have found for the Yorktown medal? I can imagine it's several times more than the Lafayette.

You should be able to find a Yorktown medal in reasonable condition for somewhere in the $200 to $300 range for a white metal example. A copper/bronze example will generally be a bit more; the lead version is very scarce and tougher to price as they seldom appear.

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Very interesting comparison.
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Most interesting read. Was it noy common place for coin designers to borrow from others work?
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