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New Member
United Kingdom
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Anyone know what these are , and do they Look real , also a value? Anyone with any knowledge thanks Identified - moved to World Coins forum - Sap
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Valued Member
United States
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Where did you find these?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3252 Posts |
Top right, dated 1556, with legend MONETA MAGNI DUCAT LITVA , would appear to be a half groschen of Sigismund II, King of Poland and Grand Duke of Lithuania.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Cursive - Supuser0 (Ebay) finds lots of coins (especially Sigismund) near the Thames !
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3252 Posts |
First two top row, and bottom left, are half groschen of Sigismund I, dated (15)12, (15)13, and 1510, respectively. All coins of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania!
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New Member
United Kingdom
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Yes , thought I'd share this item , I didn't know wether to bid , just tried to look for them couldn't identify , so I thought to share them and ask the community for advice and value
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3252 Posts |
Any idea why coins from 16th-century Lithuania are being found by a Thames mudlarker?
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
737 Posts |
Philadelphian - have a look at his very latest feedback, but I have noticed that he has sold numerous Sigismund coins with no negative feedback, also quite a lot of Unknown Coin / Token's which look like gaming tokens George III imitation Guineas only showing the Obverse - make your own mind up.
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New Member
United Kingdom
33 Posts |
I donk think he finds them neer thames, it justhelps him sell them , do those coins look dug up
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New Member
United Kingdom
33 Posts |
His most recent feed back Probily right , many eBay sellers say "random 100g". " Unsearched coin lot" , but what coincollecter will give away coins wich could be worth more than selling price , they sometimes even make out as if some could be rare , and buyers fall for it. DONT .... DONT LET BUSINESS AND STAR RATING TRICK YOU ..for a real deal its best looking at newbies and people who have put coins on eBay for the fist time 
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New Member
United States
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When I worked in Estonia, these types of coins were to be found in almost every coin/antique shop in Tallinn, Tartu and Parnu. According to the Estonian dealers, these coins are commonly found in hordes which were buried for safe keeping during the Livonian War (1558-1583) which found the Poles, Lithuanians and Swedes fighting against the Russian over the control of present day Latvia and Estonia (Livonia). By the way these same types of coins are to be found in the few Riga, Latvia coin/antique shops that I have visited.
Edited by Roderick 01/07/2013 1:44 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Russian Federation
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Quote: When I worked in Estonia, these types of coins were to be found in almost every coin/antique shop in Tallinn, Tartu and Parnu. According to the Estonian dealers, these coins are commonly found in hordes which were buried for safe keeping during the Livonian War (1558-1583) which found the Poles, Lithuanians and Swedes fighting against the Russian over the control of present day Latvia and Estonia (Livonia). By the way these same types of coins are to be found in the few Riga, Latvia coin/antique shops that I have visited. Darn it... I've been recently (August) in Vilnius, Lithuania (the one Baltic capital you didn't mention), and if I've seen something like that on sale (I mean seriously, 16th century?) I would've tried to buy it immediately. Right now, my only dated coin from the 16th century is a Russian wire copeck from 1599 - and I only bought it this year.
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New Member
United Kingdom
33 Posts |
This is the lot on eBay now 
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New Member
United Kingdom
33 Posts |
Do you think that's over priced
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New Member
United States
34 Posts |
The Vilnius area may not have hordes of these coins as it was not part of battle area. The area between Riga and Narva was where the fighting and of course coin hiding took place. Here is a link to an article about large Russian coin horde found 3 years ago in Narva dating from the period of the Livonian War. [url]http://www.minelab.com/consumer/success-stories/discovery-of-a-huge-coin-hoard-1[url]
As to the price of these coins, they appear to be in better condition than many of the excavated coins that I have seen. If your income is denominated in GBP (no exchange costs) and you live in the UK (no international postage), I would say the price as it is now is quite fair. Even if you had to pay a little more, that would be so much cheaper than taking a metal detector horde finding expedition to Estonia or Latvia.
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Valued Member
Austria
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i don“t think they are genuine - there are a lot of modern fakes on the way this time.
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