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Unknown Medieval Silver Coins Good Condition | Lithuania

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 Posted 01/06/2013  3:37 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add bradez72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Anyone know what these are , and do they
Look real , also a value?

Anyone with any knowledge thanks



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 Posted 01/06/2013  4:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cursive to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Where did you find these?
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 Posted 01/06/2013  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Top right, dated 1556, with legend MONETA MAGNI DUCAT LITVA , would appear to be a half groschen of Sigismund II, King of Poland and Grand Duke of Lithuania.
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 Posted 01/06/2013  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rooneydog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cursive - Supuser0 (Ebay) finds lots of coins (especially Sigismund) near the Thames !
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 Posted 01/06/2013  4:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First two top row, and bottom left, are half groschen of Sigismund I, dated (15)12, (15)13, and 1510, respectively. All coins of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania!
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 Posted 01/06/2013  4:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bradez72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes , thought I'd share this item , I didn't know wether to bid , just tried to look for them couldn't identify , so I thought to share them and ask the community for advice and value
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 Posted 01/06/2013  4:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any idea why coins from 16th-century Lithuania are being found by a Thames mudlarker?
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 Posted 01/06/2013  4:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rooneydog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Philadelphian - have a look at his very latest feedback, but I have noticed that he has sold numerous Sigismund coins with no negative feedback, also quite a lot of Unknown Coin / Token's which look like gaming tokens George III imitation Guineas only showing the Obverse - make your own mind up.
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 Posted 01/06/2013  5:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bradez72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I donk think he finds them neer thames, it justhelps him sell them , do those coins look dug up
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 Posted 01/06/2013  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bradez72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Probily right , many eBay sellers say "random 100g". " Unsearched coin lot" , but what coincollecter will give away coins wich could be worth more than selling price , they sometimes even make out as if some could be rare , and buyers fall for it. DONT .... DONT LET BUSINESS AND STAR RATING TRICK YOU ..for a real deal its best looking at newbies and people who have put coins on eBay for the fist time

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 Posted 01/07/2013  1:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Roderick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When I worked in Estonia, these types of coins were to be found in almost every coin/antique shop in Tallinn, Tartu and Parnu. According to the Estonian dealers, these coins are commonly found in hordes which were buried for safe keeping during the Livonian War (1558-1583) which found the Poles, Lithuanians and Swedes fighting against the Russian over the control of present day Latvia and Estonia (Livonia). By the way these same types of coins are to be found in the few Riga, Latvia coin/antique shops that I have visited.
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 Posted 01/08/2013  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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When I worked in Estonia, these types of coins were to be found in almost every coin/antique shop in Tallinn, Tartu and Parnu. According to the Estonian dealers, these coins are commonly found in hordes which were buried for safe keeping during the Livonian War (1558-1583) which found the Poles, Lithuanians and Swedes fighting against the Russian over the control of present day Latvia and Estonia (Livonia). By the way these same types of coins are to be found in the few Riga, Latvia coin/antique shops that I have visited.


Darn it... I've been recently (August) in Vilnius, Lithuania (the one Baltic capital you didn't mention), and if I've seen something like that on sale (I mean seriously, 16th century?) I would've tried to buy it immediately.
Right now, my only dated coin from the 16th century is a Russian wire copeck from 1599 - and I only bought it this year.
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 Posted 01/08/2013  5:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bradez72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is the lot on eBay now

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 Posted 01/08/2013  5:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bradez72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do you think that's over priced
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 Posted 01/08/2013  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Roderick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Vilnius area may not have hordes of these coins as it was not part of battle area. The area between Riga and Narva was where the fighting and of course coin hiding took place. Here is a link to an article about large Russian coin horde found 3 years ago in Narva dating from the period of the Livonian War. [url]http://www.minelab.com/consumer/success-stories/discovery-of-a-huge-coin-hoard-1[url]

As to the price of these coins, they appear to be in better condition than many of the excavated coins that I have seen. If your income is denominated in GBP (no exchange costs) and you live in the UK (no international postage), I would say the price as it is now is quite fair. Even if you had to pay a little more, that would be so much cheaper than taking a metal detector horde finding expedition to Estonia or Latvia.
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 Posted 01/09/2013  06:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add platinrubel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i donĀ“t think they are genuine - there are a lot of modern fakes on the way this time.
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