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White Penny - Original Or Chemical Product?

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 Posted 03/26/2013  06:04 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add thusdayclub to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello. Please tell me what do you think about this cent? This is an error coin or result of chemical bath?

White-Penny---Original-Or-Chemical-Product?
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 Posted 03/26/2013  07:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

It could be an un plated (copper) Zinc planchet
have you weighed it ?
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 Posted 03/26/2013  07:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thusdayclub to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately I have no possibility of weighing coins on weight with 0,00g. There is some other way to check whether the coin was "bathed" in chemicals?
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 Posted 03/26/2013  07:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have no idea mate, In Aus we have not had to resort to using Zinc in our coins yet
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The inage seems to show the coin lacking luster which would make me suspect a plated coin.
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 Posted 03/26/2013  12:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverEye to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is it possible to un-plate a coin, removing the copper and leaving the zinc?
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 Posted 03/26/2013  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thusdayclub to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, it is possible. I saw on youtube movie about this. After chemical bath Canadian cent from copper become "silver" and then after heating - "gold".

EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g_ml8tAnWE
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 Posted 03/26/2013  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jarubla to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My guess is PMD. People like to do funny things to cents.

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Appears to be Zinc plated. Occasionally pennies are struck on a 10c planchet but this does not appear to be one of them - not the right color. If the copper was stripped away by acid, the coin would not have that much detail.
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s it possible to un-plate a coin, removing the copper and leaving the zinc?

Yes you can, but the Zinc normally comes out rough.
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I've done an experiment like this for an open house - my job was to sit in the lab with a jar of pennies and do this trick all night.

First, dissolve some zinc sponge in some sodium hydroxide and boil the solution.

Drop in your shiny pennies. The mixture will react and a layer of zinc will form on the surface - so you are NOT removing the copper layer but rather re-plating the coin with more zinc. This is probably what caused yours.

Then hold it in a Bunsen burner for a few seconds. The thin layer of zinc will melt and dissolve some of the copper, forming low brass. At the end you get brass-looking pennies.
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Can I do this with clad pennies?
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Thanks nalaberong, your post told me everything:) Too bad,i was hoping that this penny is rare mint error:) Thank you all for answers.
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Can I do this with clad pennies?

Yes, you can use any coins as long as they have any copper surface at all (even a really thin layer). I found a Union shield cent (the first one I'd seen in Canada) and brassed it that night, although it wasn't too shiny to begin with so it didn't turn out nice.

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Thanks nalaberong, your post told me everything:) Too bad,i was hoping that this penny is rare mint error:) Thank you all for answers.

You're welcome! I think this is why most valuable off-composition coins have to be distinguishable with a magnet (like the brass Canadian 1944 nickel) - otherwise they could have been plated and there's no way to tell without destroying them...
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 Posted 03/31/2013  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FinanceGuru to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That looks exactly like the coin I spray painted silver as a kid! Maybe you found it?
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 Posted 03/31/2013  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thusdayclub to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is possible it is your coin, but what your cent is doing in Poland?:) Do you want it back?:)
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