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 Posted 05/10/2013  11:07 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add joecoin85 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey,

Anyone have any experience with ancient coin law here? By country? I tried shipping back a phony ancient coin to Israel and the USPS lady said she'd ship it but that they didn't accept ancient coins. I should have wrote just "coin" on the import/customs label because it was a fake coin I was returning so technically it isn't an ancient coin. oy.
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 Posted 05/10/2013  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Whizb4ng to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know much about USPS but I thought it technically wasn't legal to ship coins at all. I know I have had a lot of packages come from the States listed as 'numismatic tokens'
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 Posted 05/10/2013  11:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I usually put 'religious' token. Well most of the modern AE I ship might say 'so and so' D G REGINA (By grace of god Queen) and the ancients will almost always have a God or Goddess or P M or some sort of allusion to a diety. Sounds religious to me !
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 Posted 05/10/2013  12:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Numismatica/Collectables/Medallions etc. It should be fine to ship ancient coins - if you can ship regular coins, why not ancient ones?
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 Posted 05/10/2013  1:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've shipped ancient coins to Israel in the past and had no problem even listing them as ancient coins on the shipping document.
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 Posted 05/10/2013  1:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Most common description I get from overseas is " metal disc for research"
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 Posted 05/10/2013  7:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting, I didn't realize there was an issue. Although recently I shipped many boxes of old US coins from the US to a US territory and insuring them was tricky. I ended up sending them by Registered Mail and just put a total value, no detailed list or description was required, but then a customs form wasn't required. They arrived safe and sound. Not sure what would have happened if the package disappeared, whether I would have been reimbursed the stated value without having to provide evidence of content or not. The postal workers were unable to answer that question.
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 Posted 05/10/2013  8:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joecoin85 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the replies, ech, that gives me some confidence that they will get through. I've read that the Meditteranean countries don't let people export coins but importing should be fine. I definately should have been more vague though just to be sure. I think collectibles would have been better as Ben mentioned. All well we'll see if the fake coin makes it back to the seller. At least they easily agreed to accept the coin and refund me, but I'm going to be out 8 bucks. All well I paid more then that for the coin which I thought was real but is definitely counterfeit.
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 Posted 05/10/2013  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jcmworld to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've never had an issue with USPS. Just tell them you have a coin in there. In your case use "numismatic medallion" to describe it, that's customs speak for "not coin." Always worked for me.
Never call it a counterfeit or fake to the clerks, always say "replica" or "reproduction" which it technically is so you're not lying - just using a more appropriate term.
I've never had a problem shipping to overseas, at least with customs. Just keep it simple with the clerks, anything out of their range of comfort and familiarity confuses them and makes them annoyed. If they start playing the "let's make up a regulation" game just say thank you, and that you'll fix whatever they are griping about and that you'll come back later - then just go to the next post office.
And always remember the KISS principle when dealing with them (keep it simple stupid!). KISS worked well for me in the Navy.
Oh, and always have all your paperwork filled out and signed BEFORE you get to the window. Makes the clerks happy and then they speed you through.
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 Posted 05/11/2013  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joecoin85 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yeah, jcm that's a good thing to call it. I should keep it simple with the clerks. Easy to overcomplicate things. Simple is best.
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