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Well I guess I will

Ptolemy III
67.64 grams 42mm
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Ptolemy IV ?
35.69 grams 36mm
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I bought them with similar ideas (TIF) a long long time ago
Well 20 years is a long time ...... kinda sorta
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 Posted 07/18/2013  07:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Both coins are exceptional, and you would be hard pressed to find similar today.

Notice the smaller coin has a lot more detail and is very well executed. The large coins is also fabulous but lacks the "fleur di coin" of the smaller one.

Modern scholarship attributes them both to Ptolemy III.

Very, very nice FR, definitely two bad brothers that anyone would be proud to own.
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 Posted 07/18/2013  07:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the attribution ! I have long since lost the 'ticket' for #2 (it may have never had one). They usually came in cheap plastic flips back in the 1980's which I almost always discarded.
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 Posted 07/18/2013  08:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
20 years is a long time for sure, 20 years ago I was in 3rd grade....aaaaaaawwww FR...jab,jab...
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 Posted 07/18/2013  09:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those are fabulous!
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those are bot absolutely fantastic....the second one has an amazing patina, but the first one...well, lets face it...size does matter, 42 mm is beyond impressive.

20 years ago I was going to bars for the first time....well, legally anyway. doesn't really seem like that was a long time ago, but I suppose it was.
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 Posted 07/18/2013  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like the inspiration of the $10 Gold Eagle (1907-33) reverse.

Those are pretty sweet coins!
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Those are very beautiful coins.
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 Posted 07/18/2013  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They have one with a "double eagle" as well... Oih82w8
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 Posted 07/18/2013  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Whizb4ng to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Man, as always I am jealous. I am betting 20 years ago you paid substantially lower than what you would now for pieces of that quality!

Or perhaps in your young days you threw your budget to the wind ;)
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I honestly draw a complete blank as to what I paid for them. I am sure it was between $100-150 each (I am a cheapskate !) Back in the bad old days I would save up my money for the twice yearly coin show in Boston. Sometimes I would be sorely disappointed in my pursuit of nice Roman Imperial bronze and not wishing to leave empty handed I would expand my field to find some consolation. Very often a very sympathetic dealer friend (Lou from DC) would find something which he could reduce in order to get a hold of the twenty dollar bills which I had clenched in my sweaty palms. The non Romans were always nice to have but to me they were consolation prizes.

While looking about I found another one ! This one definitely came from 'Lou'. It still has his ticket too. And the price ........
Drum roll please .......
Mind you this is the marked price which I never paid !
$50

Ptolemy IV
31.75 grams 34mm




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 Posted 07/18/2013  1:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Get out! Had I known that coin was $50 when I was in 3rd grade just 2 hrs north of me , I surely would have squeezed mom for that instead of the Bee-bop ,Rocksteady and Turtle Van figurines I received in that year.
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That was the 'ticket' price. I doubt it set me back more than $40. 'Lou' was always nice to me and constantly getting me in trouble by trusting me to pay him later. My Nero Macellum reverse was just over $1000. "Take it home ..... If you like it send me $100 a month .... If you change your mind bring it back next time."
The man nearly bankrupted me
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Lou sounds like a fantastic person and quite the character. And $50 for that heck even I can afford that.

Hmm I wish I had the determination to be able to save for half a year for a really nice coin. I get tempted out of my money twice a month!
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We didn't have the "internets" way back in the stone age (We had something called the Soviet Union though)
Unless you wanted to drive all the way to New York the Boston dealers had some nice stuff but it was better to wait for the New England 'Show' and catch 6 dealers at the same time.
'Nick' from Pennsylvania
'Lou' from DC
'Ed' from Maryland
And usually 2 or 3 other guys to made the 'Great Schlep' up to Boston

I can now sit down with my laptop and look at more coins in 3 hours than I could in 6 months back in 1990.
I am really unsure which was better .....
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Ah yes the good ole 1990. I don't think I could yet string together full sentences. The girlfriend would probably say I haven't progressed much further than that age. I like to believe I got at least to age 6.

I don't know if I would prefer it or not. It would definitely be nicer because if anything went wrong I would have the 'coin money' as an emergency fund. Now two clicks and that money is gone.
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