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Divo Claudio Ae4

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Here's one from the 'TIF's Folly' lot that I spent a ridiculous amount of time on.

I think I have it now although I can't quite make the reverse legend match.

My first mistake was in thinking it was a laureate head-- apparently it's veiled. Second mistake was trying to exam it bare-eyed, with hand-held magnification, and with a USB cam (bad resolution). Once I photographed it things were easier.

Might be worth letting this one soak in oil for a long time. Or if anyone has suggestions for very gently encouraging the encrustations to go away, let me know. It's a pleasant enough coin.

ERIC is sometimes helpful when I'm looking for these Romans, but apparently it doesn't list AE4s. Huh. There's one of these in wildwinds though and I've put it below my coin.

Divo-Claudio-Ae4

Claudius II Gothicus
268-270 AD
Posthumous issue, 317-318 (?)
AE4, 16 mm, 2.2 gm
Obv: DIVO CLAVDIO OPT IMP (or OPTIMA, not sure); veiled bust right
Rev: MEMORIAE AETERNAE; eagle standing right with head left, wings open
Mint: Rome? should have R_ (P, S, T, Q) in exergue; can't see the MM
Ref: RIC VII Rome, 112?

Similar coin from wildwinds:

Divo-Claudio-Ae4

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Claudius II, posthumous issue. AE15. 317-318 AD.

Obv: DIVO CLAVDIO OPT IMP, veiled & laureate head right
Rev: MEMORIAE AETERNAE, Eagle standing right, looking left; Rome mintmark R_ (P,S,T,Q) in ex.

RIC VII Rome, 112. Very rare.

Used with permission of TimeLine Originals (www.time-lines.co.uk)


I am skeptical of the 'very rare' label as often those types of comments, when found in old references, are not accurate.

Comments welcome.
- Do I have the correct attribution?
- Is the reverse legend MEMORIAE AETERNAE or something else?
- Should I try to remove the encrustation? If so, how?


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11/30/2013 10:38 am
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That is a very nice example, and it looks as though it will clean up a little more. I have a couple of very tatty, clipped examples. Probably rare when RIC was compiled, but who knows how many have been dug up since. Still it is nice to be able to put "Rare" on the label.
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TIF I wouldn't use oil on it. I would just soak for a couple of days in DW and then pick at it. Soak/pick until you are happy with it.
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Thanks Pish.
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Rare always sounds good, perhaps you can find reference sales prices on munzeo?
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I looked there and a few other places. Found one which sold for $21.50 on ebay a couple of years ago. I haven't spent much time looking for comps yet. Right now I'm just trying to sort and attribute. Just finished the prelims on a dozen Alexandrian potin tets. Post coming up in a few minutes :)
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it does look like that light brownish stuff could be talked into coming off.
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Actually I think olive oil would work better on the coin, it will darken it a bit though. Or you can leave it as it is.
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I have a set of these, 3 different emperors and 2 or 3 different animals, Eagle,lion, a little help Ski..
I will try and post mine for you, but I have to put up Christmas lights up..
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