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1913 Type 1 Pattern Buffalo?

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Came across this off looking Buffalo nickel from 1913, did some research, and it looks a lot like a Pattern Coin to me. Only thing was that the 1913 I saw was a P and this is a D. Any input please?

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Why would you think it is a pattern coin? I see no indications that it is any type of special strike, not to mention the fact that a pattern would not be struck at a branch mint. The weak rims and granular surfaces are indicators that this coin has been acid treated to raise the date.
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The 1913 patterns had weak rims I'll post a link.
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So ya...there's that..

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For the record Biokemist I agree that's probably what had happened, but why the hostility? It was an honest question based on the description. It's not mine. I'm not trying to sell it. Just asking people that would have input.
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I see no hostility.

I agree that this is a normal 1913 D Buffalo nickel that has been acid-treated.
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Whats your problem bud? You obviously weren't entirely familiar and probably not the best guy to respond. Where's Coop?

Jimmyjohns7724, your comment is not nice. Adding a happy face is a slap in the face.
Biokemist gave you a straight answer.
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You're right my apologies I'm just used to trolls on other forums and sites and read it with a negative tone. My bad Bio that was ignorant
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That's not even a type 1 so I'm the idiot here. Always looking for something I'll never find. I completely understand why auctions are only good with slabbed coins from this one. Thanks guys
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Nothing indicating a pattern. Normal coin that's probably seen a heavy acid treatment.
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It's OK, we all make mistakes. I think this forum actually prides itself on its courtesy and LACK of hostility.
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That's not even a type 1

Well good eye.
CCF is a very informative site and a very controlled site meaning,
"Education is the key to collector success!".
The members here try to provide informative information that help us all learn.
Bobby the founder of CCF has given us a great venue.
Keep asking questions Jimmyjohns7724, so we all can learn.

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If it is struck in pure nickel, it would be brighter, and the pure nickel would easily show up in an XRF test.

Take it to a bullion dealer to prove.
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If it is struck in pure nickel, it would be brighter, and the pure nickel would easily show up in an XRF test.

Take it to a bullion dealer to prove.


IMHO, this would be a waste of time and effort. The adid bath dulled the surface.

I'm wondering if our OP thought this to be a matte finish?
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Any attack of acid would not affect in any way the remaining metallic composition.

What is affected is the surface texture, and that is quite evident in the pictures. What you see here, is definitely not the pristine matte surface of a pattern coin.
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