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1918-S 'Dooped Chin' Buffalo Nickel Die Clash

 
 
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 Posted 07/01/2018  12:57 pm Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I purchased a lot of 100 dateless Buffalo nickels from my LCS. Found a couple of Semi-Key/Key dates and somoe type-1 1913's. And then I found one of these. Here's a previous thread about this variaty. Just wondering value on one of these. Thanks!

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 Posted 07/05/2018  10:44 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure on the value, but that's very cool!
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More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
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 Posted 08/16/2018  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 08/16/2018  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Depends on the grade. Post pics here and we can help.
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 Posted 08/16/2018  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
without pics (won't be home till 8) it's about g-5 with better strike - harshly cleaned
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 Posted 08/17/2018  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's not a variety, just a strong die clash. Just a die stage and possibly exists from more than one die pair. The dies are arranged the same way and whenever a clash happens that's where the clash would show with the strength of the clashmarks varying depending on how hard the dies clashed, the temper of the dies, and how many coins have been struck since the clash occured. With die wear and/or polishing the clashmarks on the dies weaken and fade.
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 Posted 08/17/2018  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think your "dooped chin" die clash are known as "whiskers".
Unless it has a date, there won't be much value but still neat to have.
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 Posted 08/17/2018  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry for the wait here's the pic!


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 Posted 08/18/2018  2:00 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 08/18/2018  2:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, but without a date it's not going to be worth much. You might list it on eBay as a dateless coin with a clash, but you won't get much for it.
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 Posted 08/18/2018  2:30 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can see a very faint "1918" showing, but barely. Still a very nice error coin and a keeper.
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More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
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 Posted 08/18/2018  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Still a very nice error coin


Here's something I think might spark a debate between many members - is a die clash an error or a variety?
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 Posted 08/18/2018  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well it's certainly not a variety, so it must be some sort of error, i.e., an unintended result from normal production procedures.
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 Posted 08/18/2018  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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is a die clash an error or a variety?

Has to be an error. It wasn't intentionally incorporated on the dies which would make it a variety.
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IMO, a die clash is an error. But I was getting members' opinions on it just to see what the majority of people thought it was.
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 Posted 08/19/2018  09:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As I said, it is neither one, it is a die stage.
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