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Spanish silver 8 reales: Ferdinand VII

 
 
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 Posted 11/07/2018  1:12 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add pyro to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi. This coin was passed on to me by my brother in law (now deceased). About 15 years ago I did some online research and it was listed as rather rare because of the SF mint mark. Since then life is such I forgot about it. Now my curiosity has sparked again, but I can't find any info whatsoever. Does anyone know about this coin? Is it real/fake? What does SF stand for... it's been a while. :-) thanks!



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 Posted 11/07/2018  2:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TwoKopeiki to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a rather obvious imitation of a Catalunya (Mallorca) 8 Reales.

Here's an original example you can compare yours to:
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 Posted 11/07/2018  4:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pyro to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for your quick reply, TwoKopeiki. Though I wished it would turn out to be a 'real' 8 reales it looks like it's a 'real' beautiful fake. :-) Something about it intrigued me: there is more wear on the king side compared to the-almost perfect backside. Ah well, and all these years I was delusional that I had a treasure in my collection. :-)
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I like those llamas with their fists raised on the coat of arms on the OP's coin.
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To the Forum..

Check this out:

http://www.fuenterrebollo.com/faqs-...ataluna.html



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I like those llamas with their fists raised on the coat of arms on the OP's coin.

Llamas ?

As an examples:



Llamas

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 Posted 11/09/2018  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Indeed!



Which looks like a lion, and which looks (more than a little) like a llama?

(Though perhaps the three eared variety )
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 Posted 11/10/2018  02:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 1821 Numismatic Forgery has been around for a decade or two and it is a centrifugal casting that included the edge. The copies I own have three edge seam lines (one is visible on your coin.)

Personally I think the forgers (Chinese) were trying to make the Lions look too much like Dragons.

One major error they made in this case is that they used a colonial edge instead of one of the mainland diagonal designs.
My book on Counterfeit Portrait 8Rs is available from Amazon http://ccfgo.com/TheUnrealReales or from me directly if you want it signed.
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