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Lebanon
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 Posted 01/23/2020  09:36 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add chronos to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello,
A seller presented these coins to me .2 silver lebanon 1933 and 1929 50 piastres
can you help me grade them please.

Im a bit worried these coins are quite rare lots of fake available in the market do you think they are authentic ?
Made from silver they are too bright for 90 years coin do you think there are cleaned ?.and if yes how much the lose value?




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 Posted 01/23/2020  09:55 am  Show Profile   Check John K's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add John K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
they look suspect to me. Denticles are very weak. Weigh them on an accurate scale. They are supposed to weigh 10 g.

They are faking everything now - I just got burned with a fake Mexico common "silver" coin. It is not silver and weighs much less than a real one. Looks kinda the same color as yours.
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Lebanon
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 Posted 01/23/2020  12:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chronos to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
he said they are silver and ready to return them if not authentic
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 Posted 01/23/2020  4:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 1929 appears to have circulation wear. If it is shiny silver it has been cleaned.

Edit: @chronos, I do not know these coins well, but if I compare the photos to examples on NGC catalog, or Numista, I cannot find obvious problems in the design of the coin. The dark spots on both sides of the 1929 are a potential concern. As others have said, getting an accurate weight, and/or something like XRF on the coin would be helpful.

As for condition, the 1929 shows low detail on the cedar tree, but the reverse looks stronger. I am not sure if this is a sign of worn obverse die, or circulation wear (or both), but I would say not better than VF for the 1929.
The 1936 is clearly in better condition. Maybe someone else can estimate the grade.
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01/24/2020 1:45 pm
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 Posted 01/29/2020  04:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Thecollectible to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These coin will put in the slab holders
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Lebanon
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 Posted 01/29/2020  05:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chronos to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have doubt about authenticity , the privy mark next to REPUBLIQUE look a bit different then normal in the first one , what do you think ?
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 Posted 01/29/2020  07:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add keith12 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think the 1929 had a privy mark. Do you know the weight?
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 Posted 02/08/2020  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chronos to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No he didn't give me the weight , the right privy mark in the 1933s coin looks weird to me
yes in 1929 there is no privy mark.
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