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Counterfeit 1922 Cent!

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 Posted 01/26/2020  08:04 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add whatdowehavehere to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Pretty convincing, except that there is a pimple near the left base of first two, and the edge is sharp and prooflike

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01/26/2020 08:08 am
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 Posted 01/26/2020  08:38 am  Show Profile   Check nickelsguy's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i dont think so
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 Posted 01/26/2020  08:41 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a very nice coin ! Get it certified !
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 Posted 01/26/2020  09:14 am  Show Profile   Check silverwolf's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not seeing any flags.

If nickelsguy says it's ok. You can take that to the bank, so to speak..
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 Posted 01/26/2020  09:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it's counterfeit it's a good one. If it's real it's a high grade one.

What concerns me is that it looks like the obverse side has a dish effect going into the edge while it should be completely flat. The later geroge V pennies in this series were struck with a different obverse die that was concave to stop the coins sticking to the dies, take a look, you'll see
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01/26/2020 09:29 am
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 Posted 01/26/2020  10:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If that's a counterfeit, then I'm packing it in because my sense tells me it's 100% genuine.

I'd buy that coin all day long.
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 Posted 01/26/2020  10:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sure looks good to me.
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 Posted 01/26/2020  11:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add whatdowehavehere to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
THAT is why it's so scary... the edge is completely wrong: square with almost a knife-edge, sharp and pl-shiny. BTW: it's from China by way of Japan. The pimple in the die is usually enough to tell me NG, but that is easily overlooked. I'm guessing spark-erosion, but in this case I don't know
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 Posted 01/26/2020  11:23 am  Show Profile   Check nickelsguy's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Where are you getting your information?
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 Posted 01/26/2020  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm no expert on fake's but it looks pretty good to me I'd buy it
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 Posted 01/26/2020  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add whatdowehavehere to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've been buying R&B KGV small pennies for a while now; have a couple nice Red 1920's, as well as a very nice R&B 1921. None have this edge. The collar hadn't changed, nor had the definitions of the Upsetting mill changed? Am I correct in that assessment? The coin is VERY clean; usually I see a build-up of sorts of accumulated detritus in the devices (what my ex- likes to call "Gungarunga"). Nothing like that here. The luster is subdued. I'd like to sacrifice it to the Solvent Gods to see exactly what kind luster there is, but I haven't done that
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 Posted 01/26/2020  11:37 am  Show Profile   Check John K's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add John K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I looks die struck to me. Hard to believe they would go to all that trouble for a less expensive coin. I think I have a similar 1922 with the dished out obverse. Will check next time at bank.

Here is a fake I own. Not nearly as sharp a George V portrait.

To answer whatdowehavehere I have added a rim shot (har!). Not very well defined edges




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01/27/2020 11:35 am
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 Posted 01/26/2020  11:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add whatdowehavehere to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
John, how is the edge represented on your 1930 Aussi penny?
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 Posted 01/26/2020  11:42 am  Show Profile   Check nickelsguy's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Obv die is very slightly misaligned.....other than that it looks NORMAL. As for the pimple, that is a great (pressure) spot for a die chip.
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 Posted 01/26/2020  11:45 am  Show Profile   Check nickelsguy's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
chinese fake
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 Posted 01/26/2020  11:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add whatdowehavehere to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, OK... I'll send it in with a batch of similar material. If it passes Inspection, I'll buy all of you guys lunch, or something
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