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1833 Half Cent - Physical Characteristic Tolerances

 
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 Posted 07/07/2020  07:45 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Buffalo78 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I just acquired an 1833 Half Cent in around VF condition. I am a little OCD when it comes to checking weight and dimensions. This is the first Half Cent I have acquired which exceeds the mint specification of 5.44 grams. It is weighing in at 5.59 grams (103%.) Based on my data I would expect that coin in VF to weigh around 5.35-5.40. My scale is pretty good and I have used the same scale to collect all weights so comparison should be relative. Also diameter is a bit on the high side at 23.75 however I have an 1828 that measures the same and I believe the specification lists the diameter at "approx." 23.5 mm. Most of my collection runs around 23.5-23.6. Curious is anyone thinks the extra weight is a red-flag or if mint tolerances on the old coppers varied a bit for the planchets? I will try and get some pictures of the coin to post this evening. I have return privileges on the coin so I can return if necessary. Thanks
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 Posted 07/07/2020  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Describe it as if there were no picture.
Picture it as if there were no description.
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 Posted 07/07/2020  08:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ariette to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think that a slight weight difference alone is enough to say for certain whether the coin is bad, as copper coins are not going to be subject to the same strict tolerances as silver and gold coins. If everything else checks out, I wouldn't worry about it.
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 Posted 07/07/2020  09:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buffalo78 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, here are the sellers pics. They are pretty dark.





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 Posted 07/07/2020  10:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There isn't an "official" tolerance for the 1833 Half Cents, the official tolerance didn't start til the act of 1837. That standard was +/- .227 grams. If since the official weight didn't change if you apply the 1837 tolerance that would allow an upper weight of 5.667 grams
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 Posted 07/08/2020  07:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buffalo78 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So here are two much better pictures at my coin table with some lighting. Much better than the seller's pics. I appreciate the insight Conder. I believe there was only one die set for the 1833. The reverse diagnostics check out to me. Overall I am pleased with the coin for the price. I did not see any flags other than being slightly overweight. I think I am looking at a F obverse and VF reverse.



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