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Commems Collection: 1937 Roanoke Half Dollar Copy

 
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 Posted 10/16/2020  3:24 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
A few years back, I came across a Roanoke half dollar that immediately struck me as being "off." After a bit of inspection, it became clear it was a copy and not an original. It's not a horrible copy - if you only give the coin a quick glance (I've seen worse!) - but even a cursory examination will yield its multiple deviations from a genuine coin.




Genuine 1937 Roanoke Half Dollar


Image courtesy of PCGS Coin Facts, http://www.PCGS.com/coinfacts


To point out just a few of the issues present...

- Poor and incorrect detail in Raleigh's hair and beard on the obverse.

- Mistaken shapes and serifs on multiple letters in the various obverse inscriptions; the letter "R" seemed to present a strong challenge for the "artist."

- Poor level of detail throughout the depiction of Elinor Dare on the reverse; it could just be the artificial toning/aging applied to the piece, but the eyes of Virginia Dare make her look like an alien baby rather than a human!

- As on the obverse, the reverse has multiple font issues/discrepancies in its various inscriptions.

- Clear differences in the leaves/branches of the pine sapling to the right of Elinor (viewer's perspective) on reverse.

Pieces like this one make it very important to remember...

When buying raw coins - especially from internet sellers on auction sites - make sure to take the time to compare what is being offered against a coin known to be a genuine example (e.g., a coin in a PCGS/NGC/ANACS holder). As the old saying goes, if the deal seems too good to be true, it most likely isn't. Keep your collection - and wallet - safe!

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Impressive sleuthing.

Funny thing is I really like the circulation cameo on it.
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I am assuming a different alloy to the standard common 90% Half.
Is there any difference in the ping tone to a common 90% Half?

Unfortunately, if a suspected fake is in a suspected fake holder, the holder has to broken to investigate the coin.
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Unfortunately, if a suspected fake is in a suspected fake holder, the holder has to broken to investigate the coin.

If you know what to look for, many fakes can be detected by visual inspection - no need to weigh them, ping test them, or crack them out of a fake holder.

Those familiar with the Roanoke half dollar characteristics, for example, should be able to recognize the above coin as a fake without anything other than a visual inspection.

Of course, some fakes are so good that every test/technique needs to be used to diagnose them! (See the NGC piece on the fake 1935 Connecticut here: Fake Connecticut Half dollar


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Is there any difference in the ping tone to a common 90% Half?

The coin does not have the ring of a silver coin - just the dull thud of a base metal piece.


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Funny thing is I really like the circulation cameo on it.

I still prefer the one I picked up from nickelsearcher a few years ago!




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I'm seriously getting this one into my 7070.

Just by looking at it I notice how off the details comparing to the authentic one's are.

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I still prefer the one I picked up from nickelsearcher a few years ago!
Well played, sir. Well played. Certainly a superior looking example.
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