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Belgian Coins Real Or Fake?

 
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( I'm no pro, it's just my humble opinion )
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 Posted 10/19/2020  05:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 5 centimes coin looks real to me.

Maybe a die crack or some other type of defect towards the top of the monogram in your first enlargement?

I don't know the token, but would be surprised anyone would counterfeit a token. Very nice!
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tdziemia don't you think it's a coin cast? What caused such stripes adjacent to the protruding parts of the coin. As if the metal is stuck to the stamp. On the other hand, the coin appears to be of the period, with an original patina ..


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I believe that the striations are either metal flow, or a reworking of the die (dies tended to be used to their very last by the Belgian mint in this period). In my opinion, both are genuine.
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 Posted 10/19/2020  07:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also thought metal flow in the first photo, but seeing that the lines go OVER the devices (the ribbon), maybe die reworking is a better answer..

Edit: By chance I noticed this eBay listing, which I think is a reverese die match.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/BELGIUM-5-...AOSwjF9fQ-PD
The die flaw inside the monogram is at an earlier state of wear, but the flow lines/die lines are very similar.


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 Posted 10/19/2020  10:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kosek8787 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
tdziemia, you are great. Thank you both for your help!
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