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Elizabeth I Half Groat. I Of Spina Over A Cross.

 
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 Posted 10/31/2020  12:31 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Hogarth to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Sorting through my box of odds and ends this afternoon I noticed this. The I of SPINA is punched over a cross. Has anyone else here seen this before?

MM hand, so 1590-92.


Edited by Hogarth
10/31/2020 2:08 pm
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 Posted 10/31/2020  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Check PaddyB's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add PaddyB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting coin. I can't say I know enough to comment but I see this thread has been quoted on other fora for comment. No one has yet said they have seen one before.
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 Posted 10/31/2020  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hogarth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Hi Paddy,
Yeah, I've made a few Google searches, looked at images of similar coins, etc. I can't find any mention of this anywhere. One letter punched over another would not be all that surprising. A letter punched over a motif such as a cross is something I've not come across before. So strikingly obvious too (well, I hadn't spotted it, even though I've owned this coin for about ten years). Maybe one for the hammered experts.
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 Posted 10/31/2020  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Check PaddyB's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add PaddyB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also now noted that the V of Civitas appears to be an upside down A - very unusual!
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10/31/2020 6:00 pm
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 Posted 10/31/2020  6:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hogarth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

It does!
I was concentrating so much on the obverse I hadn't seen that. Thank you.
Might there also be something going on between the N and the E on the obverse?
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 Posted 11/01/2020  03:25 am  Show Profile   Check PaddyB's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add PaddyB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is possible too. The interest though is more in the cross under the I. Apparently over-struck letters are not uncommon, as is the occasional misuse of an A for a V, but the cross under the I has not been noticed before and the form of the cross does not seem to match any known letter or symbol in use at the time.
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