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 Posted 05/09/2021  7:14 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Coins hunter to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi,
4.22g
19.33mm
4.44g
19.50mm





Thanks in advance
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 Posted 05/09/2021  8:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bob L to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The obverse looks distressingly similar to some in the fake reports. FYI, it doesn't seem that there is any legit Pertinax denarius with a PVDICITIA reverse. (Basing that conclusion on a quick search)
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 Posted 05/09/2021  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bob L to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 05/09/2021  8:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bob L to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Have to ask: Are these Ebay purchases? If so, did you check the fake sellers' lists (assuming you know about those lists)?
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 Posted 05/09/2021  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coins hunter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No, I bought it from a friend looking for coins, he digs with his hands and I know him very well, he does not have the ability to imitate coins at all.
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 Posted 05/09/2021  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bob L to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay, I'm done for the evening then.
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 Posted 05/09/2021  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Check echizento's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Where is your friend supposed to be digging these coins from? Non of these coins appear to be genuine IMO.
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 Posted 05/10/2021  09:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gainn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The only place these were 'dug' from is a product list on Wish.
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 Posted 05/10/2021  2:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add iulius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a business for tourists - you buy cheap, obscure or fake Roman coins and sow some fields. Then for money - someone searches and finds ...
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 Posted 05/10/2021  2:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coins hunter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You may be right @iulius
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 Posted 05/10/2021  5:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coins hunter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello,
Is there a difference in the shape and weight of the Roman or Greek coins in terms of the geographical location of the mint?
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 Posted 05/10/2021  6:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Is there a difference in the shape and weight of the Roman or Greek coins in terms of the geographical location of the mint?

TO answer this question: yes.

Different coinage systems used different weights. A Roman silver denarius weighed almost, but not quite the same as, a Greek drachm, for example. Even within the Greek series, different standards for the drachm were used at different times.

Within the Roman series, it was not the weight of the denarius that changed so much as the silver fineness, which generally declined over time. In the end, the weight changed too.

As for shape, "round-ish" was always the goal. Some time periods achieved this better than others. In the Roman series, for example, Republican and early Empire coins were generally quite round, with smooth edges. Mid-period coins tend to be splayed out, with numerous cracks and gaps in the rim as the brittle low-silver alloy literally cracked under pressure of being struck into coins. Late Roman coins tend to be quite round and well-centred.
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@Sap,
Thanks for your reply ,
Was there a difference in minting in the same period of time between Roman coins from one region to another, such as East and west?
I appreciate you're help
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 Posted 05/10/2021  8:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Was there a difference in minting in the same period of time between Roman coins from one region to another, such as East and west?

Generally not. The Romans held fairly tight control over their financial system, so the basic standard of the coins (size, weight, fineness, etc) was constant throughout the Empire at any given time period. For most of Roman history, coins were only struck at just one or two mints at any given time; the Romans then used their famously efficient road and sea transport network to distribute the coins to the provinces.
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 Posted 05/10/2021  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coins hunter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,
Weren't they minting coins in many cities from parts of the empire? Was the engraver one person?
I say that because I see a difference in the shape of the carved drawing in the coins that minted in the Levant, for example! And between the same coins that has been minted in Europe!
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