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1997 Toonie Die Crack?

 
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 Posted 10/27/2021  2:27 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add coinman91 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hey guys just found this 1997 toonie in some change I got today and it stuck out as to it being better condition than my current album filler. I don't think it's fake although it is off in weight minutely (7.24g). I noticed what looks like a die crack on it and wanted to know what you all think of it? Pics for comparison, first pics are the die crack coin in question.




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 Posted 10/28/2021  5:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinman91 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like no one is too sure so here's my last try with some good photos from my scope of the die crack. Anyone else agree?


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 Posted 10/28/2021  6:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like a crack of some kind, but I've never seen one like it. Every die crack I've seen on older Canadian coinage start at a specific section in the design that has a sharp change of direction, That is usually from a denticle, a bead, a serif on a number or letter, or something in the portrait or reverse design where there is a sudden change of direction. That creates a tremendous stress point during striking so the metal will crack ... too much force on a small sliver/section of the die.. Your inset goes from smooth to smooth, so I don't understand, unless it didn't happen during the strike, but rather when the 2 components were combined and didn't quite match. It's a keepr since no one else on here has shown one.
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 Posted 10/28/2021  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting, since the core and the ring are two different pieces of metal is it a possible planchette flaw on the core? Its hard to tell from the photos, maybe a possible lamination issue specifically effecting the core? If the core and ring are two separate pieces then if it was a die crack would it be a retained broken planchette? Don't know enough about coins with different metal competitions I have never looked into toonies much.

Either way looks good and a keeper:) if you have not already I would recommend an acetone soak to confirm it is not foreign debris.
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 Posted 10/28/2021  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinman91 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for both of your input on this as I was rather stumped and still am as well. All good questions I wish I could answer but I do know it is definitely on the core itself with some type of cracking or maybe lamination as it is raised and I can feel it. I will throw it in a 2x2 as a die crack and tuck it away though!
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 Posted 10/28/2021  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it goes from rim to Tim(not the core, idk if it would be a die crack? Die brake is rim to rim but that would not be the case here as the core and ring are struck as a whole. If it is a die crack it's not like ones I have seen.
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