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Iranian Coins Not Allowed On Ebay

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 Posted 03/17/2023  10:39 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mds308 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I just had a 5000 Dinar coin pulled by eBay. Those on this forum may already know this. It was news to me. Here is the message I received:

We had to remove your listing because it didn't follow our Embargoed goods policy. Goods from embargoed countries aren't allowed.
What activity didn't follow the policy
The item you listed originated from Iran, a country against which the United States is imposing an embargo. Because eBay is a company based within the United States, it and its subsidiaries are bound by the trade restrictions of the United States Government. As a result, we do not allow any products from Iran regardless of if they were made or brought into the country before the embargo. We appreciate that you chose to utilize our site, but we must ask that you please not relist in this case.

What you need to do next
You can't relist items we've ended. Please ensure your current and future listings follow this policy.

What is the policy
- Sellers can't list embargoed goods or pre-embargoed goods from these countries or regions:
-- Cuba
-- Crimea region of Ukraine (as defined under applicable sanctions)
-- Democratic People's Republic of Korea (North Korea)
-- Iran
-- Syria
- Organizations, businesses, or individuals based in or from the countries listed above, or those on the United States' Specially Designated Nationals (SDNs) list can't register accounts on eBay
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 Posted 03/17/2023  11:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1847bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, it's been this way for a while. As far as Cuba goes, they won't allow coins and stamps made by the US mint during occupation. Dumb rule.
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 Posted 03/17/2023  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure what the real motivation is by eBay to not allow for the sale of Iranian coins, but large auction houses such as HA do allow Iranian coins to be sold. Also coins from Cuba.
MA-Shops and VCoins also have coins from Iran (and Cuba) for sale.
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03/17/2023 11:57 am
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 Posted 03/17/2023  1:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numister to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Best part is when do you do a search on sold results, some do get sold!
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 Posted 03/17/2023  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add retiredkper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Back in the day we had the same problem with Cuban coins of the Castro era. Funny thing was that the law prohibited buying the coins from Cuba but not if we bought them from a dealer in Canada!
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 Posted 03/18/2023  07:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bjherbison to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some listings with Iran aren't removed. Many are listed using "Persia". Some are listed without specifying a country -- just date and denomination.
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 Posted 03/18/2023  09:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's just a standard keyword-spotting bot - it looks for the keywords, in this case the name of the country, and auto-blocks the listing if it contains those words.

You can bypass the lock by simply avoiding using those words. Calling Cuba "South Florida" or "Kuba" seems to work; I suspect calling Iran "Persia" would work as well. Of course, if someone were to manually report your listing, you'd get nuked on the spot for trying to weasel your way around the ban. So it's not a path I'd recommend taking.

And yes, the irony of eBay blocking coinages issued by pro-US governments in the name of supporting US government policy, has not gone unnoticed before. It's particularly annoying for us non-Americans, because eBay has this embargo in place worldwide. So even though my country has no diplomatic problem with either Cuba or Iran, we still can't list Cuban or Iranian coins on eBay Australia.

Cuba doesn't have a particularly long numismatic history; Iran does. I see there doesn't seem to be much of an obstacle in buying ancient and mediaeval coins from Persia/Iran on eBay, so long as the I-word isn't used in the listing - even though all those listings for Sassanian, Achaemenid, Ilkhanate, Tabaristan, Qajar, and similar coinages are all "Iranian " and thus would all technically be in violation of the ban.
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 Posted 03/19/2023  10:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnConduitt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes it's an ignorant policy. I guess they think it's easier to annoy collectors than to deal with an irrational law, although plenty of 'Iranian' coins are sold in the US. In fact, I've bought Parthian coins from the US no problem. eBay can argue they're just trying to make sure they abide with the law, but are quite happy enrich themselves with fakes and scams.

I don't know, but I don't think they can object to 'Persian'. The First Persian Empire covered Greece, Egypt, Israel, Armenia, Iraq, India...many places of which the US approves. It's not as if the current regime is aligned with the Sassanian (pre-Islamic) empire. I've sold Sassanian coins on eBay - but I was extra careful to emphasise the fact that they were struck in what is modern-day Iraq.
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03/19/2023 10:54 am
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 Posted 03/19/2023  3:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The ban of pre-1939 Cuban coins makes no sense, they were minted in the USA.
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 Posted 03/21/2023  12:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mlov to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Easy to get around the ban. Just list the coins as coming from "Persia."

Notice how many North Korean coins and notes you see on eBay. Lots of them. How? The sellers just list them as "Korea" or "Korean."
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