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1909-D $5 And 1913 $2.5 Gold Indians- Genuine?

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Hi guys!,
knowing that the gold indians were heavily counterfeited in the 60's/70's,
im wanting to get your opinions on these two indians I picked up,

1909-D $5 , weight 8.36g
1913 $2.5 , weight 4.17g

im just trying to avoid those middle eastern gold counterfeits , living in Australia I havent laid eyes on many gold indians so you guys are the pros!
Not much pre 33 US gold comes up for sale here :(

your comments are much appreciated!

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1909-D-$5-And-1913-$2.5-Gold-Indians--Genuine?
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1909-D-$5-And-1913-$2.5-Gold-Indians--Genuine?
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Weights are spot on and I don't see any red flags here.
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They look legit to me also. nice looking coins, better grades.
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Stunners! Wow!
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Can't see any problems.
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They appear to be real Gold Indians, lovely looking coins.. The question I would ask is did you purchase them from a reputable dealer, or company? Can you get them certified/authenticated locally?
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purchased off a gold and silver stacking facebook group,, from a seller with a good reputation., id like to send to pcgs, but that involves me sending overseas and waiting months :(
i know someone with a xrf, ill get tested and show the results!
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Both appear genuine and are considered common dates. Quarter-eagles always bring nice premiums to melt though. If the size is correct you know they're gold but the xrf will confirm. They look good to me. Grading Indians from images is a fool's errand but both have high AU details.
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here are the xrf tests

1909-D-$5-And-1913-$2.5-Gold-Indians--Genuine?
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I don't see any red flags on these.
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Very nice looking real coins to my eye.
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Awesome &
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anyone think it would be worth sending to grading? I'm in australia so would be a bit of a mission posting.
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Personally wouldn't send them for grading.
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anyone think it would be worth sending to grading? I'm in australia so would be a bit of a mission posting.


I would not. You have beautiful coins that are genuine U.S. Indian Head gold pieces and quite valuable as they sit raw. You'd have to pull Choice Mint Grades from a top TPG to make grading worthwhile. There are considered common dates. That's my 2 cents worth.

Also remember G$2.50 pieces (quarter-eagles) bring significant premiums to melt so don't let anyone tell you they are melt value pieces. They are not.
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